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2009/06/07 23:56:02 (permalink)

scale tunning

Hi all, does anyone know if there is a scale tunning vst midi plugin or in Sonar?? something that I can insert in a midi track then use a note and make it a quarter note, something like oriental arabic scale

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    slartabartfast
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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/08 02:36:31 (permalink)
    Tracks-Snap to Scale-Enable/Disable
    Snap to Scale
    The Tracks-Snap to Scale-Enable/Disable Snap To Scale command
    enables or disables the Snap to Scale function on selected tracks.
    For more information, see Snap to Scale.
    Tracks-Snap to Scale-Root Note-[name
    of root note]
    The Tracks-Snap to Scale-Root Note-[name of root note] command sets
    the root note of the selected scale on selected tracks.
    For more information, see Snap to Scale.
    Tracks-Snap to Scale-Scales-[name of
    scale]
    The Tracks-Snap to Scale-Root Note-[name of scale] command sets the
    scale for the Snap to Scale function on selected tracks.
    Tracks-Snap to Scale-Scales-Scale Manager
    Menu Reference
    For more information, see Snap to Scale.
    Tracks-Snap to Scale-Scales-Scale
    Manager
    The Tracks-Snap to Scale-Scales-Scale Manager command opens the
    Scale Manager dialog.
    For more information, see Snap to Scale.
    Tracks-Snap to Scale-Scales-Snap
    Settings
    The Tracks-Snap to Scale-Scales-Snap Settings command opens the
    Snap Scale Settings dialog.
    For more information, see Snap to Scale.
    Tracks-Input
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    Art1820m
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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/08 03:27:17 (permalink)
    I wanna be able to change the (Cent) of a not for example---> B note = -50 cents. how can I get this then record, because it wont be the same if I used the pitch control .. thanks

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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/08 10:46:20 (permalink)
    The scale manager in Sonar seems to be set up to work with changes of a semitone (100 cents) in an equal-tempered scale. If you can live with that, it may already have the scale you want, or you can set one up yourself. Maybe someone with more experience with this can advise you on how to get what you want using that feature.

    Once you get into microtuning, you will need to have two things. A way to define your scale, and an instrument to play it. Some instruments (wood&wire pianos obviously, but also a significant proportion of synths can't play notes between the keys from a simple midi note number). You might be able to tweak the note you want by adding pitch bend events to your midi file, but that could get tedious if you want every instance of that note detuned. Scala is becoming a standard way of defining scales, and Rapture, and Dimension are examples of softsynths that can load Scala files, and that would probably be the easiest way to go.

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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/08 15:00:59 (permalink)
    there should be a way to do this. A MFX midi plugin that does the trick

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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/08 17:05:49 (permalink)
    Damn, Art.

    Stop leaning on your console and put some muscle into getting the answer yourself.

    Google turned up these in a lot less time than I spent posting my last reply.

    http://kore.noisepages.com/tag/utilities/

    http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41973

    http://www.dontcrack.com/freeware/downloads.php/id/3846/software/MidiBag/
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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/08 17:40:16 (permalink)
    You might take a look at SCALA

    Scala Home Page

    Scala


    Scala is a powerful software tool for experimentation with musical tunings, such as just intonation scales, equal and historical temperaments, microtonal and macrotonal scales, and non-Western scales. It supports scale creation, editing, comparison, analysis, storage, tuning of electronic instruments, and MIDI file generation and tuning conversion. All this is integrated into a single application with a wide variety of mathematical routines and scale creation methods. Scala is ideal for the exploration of tunings and becoming familiar with the concepts involved. In addition, a very large library of scales is freely available for Scala and can be used for analysis or music creation.

    Great care has been taken to make Scala's functions and operations very general. The range of parameter values that commands accept is made as wide as possible. Often various forms of input are allowed. No arbitrary restrictions are made. Scales are stored in a flexible format. Intervals can be entered and saved as either ratios or in cents and be intermixed within a single scale.

    Constructing scales from scratch is one of Scala's strengths. The kinds of scales that can be made with Scala include: equal temperaments, Pythagorean (meantone) scales, Euler-Fokker genera, Fokker periodicity blocks, harmonic scales, Partch diamonds and Wilson combination product sets. In addition, a set of command files is included to build other kinds of scales such as triadic scales, circular mirrorings, circulating temperaments, etc., and to serve as examples.

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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/09 01:04:55 (permalink)
    I've already done Google search that's why I'm hear. And what makes you so sure that I haven't ???

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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/09 19:48:14 (permalink)
    I wanna be able to change the (Cent) of a not for example---> B note = -50 cents.
    Right-click on the following link, and 'Save Target As ...' 000 Quarter Tone B.scl

    Drop it in either Dimension Pro or Rapture.
    drive letter:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Tunings -OR- drive letter:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Rapture\Tunings.

    Launch either Dimension Pro or Rapture. Click on the Pitch (modulator), then click on the Pitch Keytrack (diagonal line graphic).
    Load the '000 Quarter Tone B' file for each active Element in the synth preset.
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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/10 13:48:24 (permalink)
    Hey thanks Ill give it a try but I hope I could do this with any synth

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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/10 15:05:39 (permalink)
    Did you try using the Tobybear microtuner plugin?
    post edited by slartabartfast - 2009/06/10 15:15:54
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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/10 17:37:49 (permalink)
    Um not really let me check

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    RE: scale tunning 2009/06/10 17:42:10 (permalink)
    I cant open it in sonar it doesnt find the midi plugin. I copy the dll file to the shared midi but it doesn't find it. any ideas how to do this?

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    Re: RE: scale tunning 2017/03/26 20:52:52 (permalink)
    Hi.i neeeeed a midi fx for microtonal vst.way sonar. Why not just vst kind of sonar after all these years
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