separating midi channels to separate tracks

Straight forward question,I have SD3 single track with a snare and bass kick sample in it. How do I separate them to separate tracks so I can fine tune independently??? 

Cian

I know beagle! but I didnt do that and Id rather not record it again. can I copy the midi snare line in X1 say and then past it exactly in another midi track below?

Cian

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How do I separate them to separate tracks so I can fine tune independently?

Depends what you mean by "fine tune". If you want to have independent control of the MIDI, you can just select the kick drum notes in the PRV by clicking on the corresponding note number at the left, and cut-paste the events to another track that you assign to the same instance of SD3.


If you want independent control over the audio output for each part, insert another audio track, set its input to SD3 Output 2, and set the output for one of the relevant kit pieces to Output 2 in the Mixer section of SD3.


Or you can do both options.

Hey Cian, I think Brundlefly's response is what you are looking for.  No need to insert another instance or move anything around. 
-Insert audio track
-set output of audio track to SD3 and you will get a drop down of options to set it to...IE ''snare mono"..kick mono"..toms..etc.


Note - that no wave will actually appear in your audio track until you freeze SD 3 but you will hear the results.

Sorry if this is not what you were talking about

Oh I got you, I havent used SD3 in a while but I think there is a number under each channel on the SD3 mixing interface. Can you assign that number to your track? or separate channel? Making the audio track volume the only volume control 

I will check in a bit when I can fire up Sonar

Cian, the mixing channel of SD3 does not go to other midi channels, they go to the output tracks of the ones you set up whenever you inserted SD3.

if you set it up with ALL OUTPUTS MONO, then you get 24 new audio tracks inserted into your project for output.  there are 12 stereo or 24 mono outputs for SD3.

if you go into the mixer of SD3 by clicking on the MIXER button on the GUI of SD3, then it takes you to the mixer panel and at the bottom of each column is a pull down menu for the output channel.  if you have MONO outputs, and you select "1" for the kick, for example, it will output to 1 & 2 in mono, maybe depending on the kit you chose, tho, I am not sure about that.

if you set up the snare for 5, then it will output on 5 & 6.

the inputs are set only on the track properties.

Beagle, thanks for the images, which clearly explains everything very well. I was doing what you were doing, however what I was actually missing was the first midi track which allows you actually put in midi notes. If you just insert SD3 with all mono outputs checked you dont get a midi track with it (with record buttons etc), so I had to insert one and send its output to SD3, which routed everything nicely thanks.

It is really annoying that it give me 24 tracks, is it not standard that you would like to route your drum tracks to mono? I end up having to delete over half of them.

Brundle fly, apologies I dont really figure yet. If I delete the SD3 midi track obviously its not going to route the signal to my audio tracks then resulting in no sound (there is no original just one)?? Im obviously not getting something very very simple here!

Cian

.........dont wanna delve too much off topic here, but take for example the hihat channel....if you panned a stereo track of the hihat output 40% to the left is that the same as panning a mono track of the hihat 40% to the left.....there is more processing power used for the stereo track right  since there are still "two wave files" at each speaker? but is the sound fundamentally the same?

Ive noticed that not many people actually use SD3 here for any kind of serious beat making, I wonder why.

Cian

actually never thought about putting all the toms or all the cymbals to one channel, which of course then would require stereo but it would also save on track clutter, damn laptop screens are just too small!

Cian

well I did have a simple instruments SD3 track, currently I have 2 audio tracks using the snare and kick as inputs from the SD3. By muting the SD3 track the sound "sometimes" still goes through to the audio track (some reason X1 just decides to not route it sometimes). If I delete SD3 then no sound comes out, If I unmute the SD3 track then the audio and midi are routing together,overloading the meters.


I think I understand what you mean by splitting the single SD3 track now to audio and midi , ive never seen that splitting option however.

Template, now thats a smart thing to do. Tip of the day, fact!

Cian