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session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
Do any of you find yourself gravitating towards 1 over the other and if so, why? It seems to me , as I am just finishing up "works in progress" started on (and therefore finished in) session drummer that it is time to reach for one or the other for all the songs still in my head. As I looked at some of the videos covering the basics out there, I find myself saying "oh just like session drummer, good." I mean, I know at some point I'm just gonna have to dive in to AD2 and see if it works for me, but I am curious as to what you guys are out there doing. Do you: A) use AD2 exclusively B) use SD3 exclusively C) use both depending on context but ultimately choosing 1 over the other D) use both environments interchangeably, since midi is still midi until you decide to make it audio. Any tips, tricks or features that you find especially helpful or sway your decision toward 1 over the other would be of note too. Tim
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/24 21:19:42
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As a drummer I can tell you that they're not even in the same league. AD2 is amazing! The flexibility as far as drum sounds, parameter tweaking, and response and feel when you're playing through an electronic kit is just light years ahead of Session Drummer. To me SD is a toy compared to AD. Of course, this is just my opinion.
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/25 01:02:23
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SD3 is in need of an overhaul, but I don't see it happening. It's great to get you up and running while you figure out how things work. Once you get into drum software that has really great sounds, it would be hard to go back. The AD package makes SD3 redundant.
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/25 08:36:55
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/25 09:00:50
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AD2 (and AD1 too) sounds much better to me for realistic drums but in Session Drummer you can load your own samples so if for instance you need to quickly slap together a "produced" or electronic kit it has the edge.
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/25 10:02:16
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I've found myself using both, simultaneously. It started when I was going to replace SD3 with AD2 in an older project because (as mentioned above) they sound more realistic to my ears too. I started A/Bing the tracks and wound up using a mix of about 70% AD2 and 30% SD3. Deciding between which one to use is a good problem to have IMHO.
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/25 11:03:53
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Thanks for the input guys. Now I think I will find a video tutorial to find my way around AD2 and get the basic gist of the workflow. ( I'm normally a text kind of guy, but when it comes to using software interfaces, "click here" is much more intuitive than "click in the upper right hand quadrant of the toolbar to dispalay dropdown menu". I don't think I will be throwing in the towel on session drummer yet, though. One question: both make good use of the step sequencer function, right? I love that thing, it reminds me of programming drum machines except it's way more flexible.
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/25 11:07:56
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I have never used AD with the step sequencer but I don't see why it wouldn't work. It comes with a ton of useful live played loops (not rigidly quantized). I usually just drag them onto the track and edit from there.
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/26 19:12:43
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I use SD3 when I want to use samples and AD2 when I want to use their kits. Both are useful depending on the context.
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/26 19:30:12
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If all I had was SD3 and AD2 to choose between then it would be AD2 without doubt. Thankfully I have other options. Steve
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/26 19:44:46
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I use both. AD has admittedly way better capabilities and sounds über fantastic. I just can't figure it out. I can't get it to do what I want probably entirely based on lack of knowledge.
With Session Drummer 2 I get what I want fast and have the controls easily understood and it sounds very good.
I hope to learn AD as I become more familiar with it, but it really can be frustrating. That said, it has fantastic sounding kits and I wish I could control them.
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/26 19:47:43
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AD is great. Battery I found to be a suitable SD replacement but I'm getting more into Maschine nowadays.
Plenty of respect for SD but it seems to have been abandoned which is a shame.
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lawajava
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/26 20:13:08
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It's been abandoned for 2 maybe more years. It's not that old. Agreed it's not a stand-alone stellar attraction product like Addictive Drums - but Session Drummer 3 is still pretty cool.
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Re: session drummer 3 vs addictive drums 2
2014/08/27 21:54:10
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lawajava ...it has fantastic sounding kits and I wish I could control them.
I'm with you. I thought the best way to learn AD would be to use it, and now I'm in the middle of a project and the drums (AD) seem to be running the whole show. I can barely keep up.
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