simplest way to mark and loop

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2006/03/21 08:06:38 (permalink)

simplest way to mark and loop

At the recent Sounds Expo show in London there was a great session by the Sound on Sound folks showing how to rescue a mix. This was done using Logic and one thing that really impressed me was that the presenter seemed to be able to just drag and highlight a portion of the track and immediately get Logic to loop that section.

I'm having trouble achieving that with Sonar; it seems to take quite a few key presses to get that to work. This is probably just me not knowing that ctrl+alt+left shift something does it, but what's the preferred way to, while playing a track, select a loop region and get Sonar to start looping it.

Also, is there any way to get Sonar to loop 'just once' i.e every time you press play it will play the loop from beginning to end but then STOP!. When you're trying to trim out a small chunk of audio, you don't always want to loop endlessly but with small chunks it's tricky to see if, played by itself, the chunk is exactly what you want.

I'm sure it's just me being noobish here.

PS: Sonar kept a very low profile at this show, for some reason. Seems like a lost opportunity, ah well.... Logic was all over the place....

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    metalhead28
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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 08:22:00 (permalink)
    There is a menu button called "Loop Selection" or something like that.
    You select a clip, click on that button and it will continuously loop that clip when you play the track. Or I'm sure you can click and drag in the timeline to create your selection.
    I can't look at my screen right now because I'm at work, but look for the button...it's like a little scale with a flag/arrow on each end I think...haha, it's hard to describe a button.
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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 09:41:05 (permalink)
    Make a key binding for:

    Set loop points to selection

    For your second question you may want to consider auto punch.

    20x7

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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 11:01:44 (permalink)
    click the track that has the length you want to loop, when it turns black, go to the tool bar and click the "Set loop points to selection button" That's it your section will be loops and it will play over and over until you stop it. Read the sonar help section called "Loop/Auto Shuttle"

    You don't want to loop a section if you just plan to play it once. That's not looping that's just playing a selected area. I am not certain how to do what you have asked for this part of playing a selected area just once.

    Good luck,

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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 11:25:10 (permalink)
    In addition to what others mentioned above, you can quickly drag along the Time Ruler to select your portion. Then click on the 'Set Loop Points To Selection' button.

    Note that this button also exists on the Transport toolbar. It's always close by depending on how you use your Transport and configure your toolbars.

    You may already be aware, but dragging along the Time Ruler is affected by your Snap to Grid settings.

    Also, is there any way to get Sonar to loop 'just once' i.e every time you press play it will play the loop from beginning to end but then STOP!.


    Do either of these:

    1. Right-click on the Time Ruler and select Auto Shuttle; or

    2. Select menu Transport > Loop and Auto Shuttle

    Then in the ensuing dialog box, uncheck "Loop Continuously"
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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 12:47:10 (permalink)
    JohnrC,

    That tip on using auto shuttle was great!! I have never though about that before. I was a bit upset to find that everytime I went to use this feature I had to manually set my start and end time. However, experimenting with it, I found that if you highlight the time ruler, then click the "Set loop points to selection" button, and then click the "Loop and Auto Shuttle" button, your start and end points are automatically selcted for you. Since the two buttons are right next to each other, it's no hardship to do.

    Thanks again for the tip Johnrc

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    post edited by Jesse G - 2006/03/21 12:55:32

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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 13:14:21 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: aj

    Also, is there any way to get Sonar to loop 'just once' i.e every time you press play it will play the loop from beginning to end but then STOP!. When you're trying to trim out a small chunk of audio, you don't always want to loop endlessly but with small chunks it's tricky to see if, played by itself, the chunk is exactly what you want.


    Another method is to use Transport->Audition. Select the time and track(s) you want to hear, then hit SHIFT-SPACE. This will play the selected area and then stop. Hit SHIFT-SPACE again to re-play (as long as the same time and tracks are selected).
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    JohnrC
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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 14:33:25 (permalink)
    And the really nice thing about your method, tparker24, is that the audition points are independent of the Loop Points, so the latter remain intact. You also get to be selective about the tracks you want to audition.

    Logic shmogic

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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 15:00:16 (permalink)
    That's an even better way or auditioning a section of audio or a section of a particular track in addition to to using the Alt drag combination.

    See, this is why I love the forum, minds workng to gether coming up with ways to make recording easier.

    I add these bits of information to my sonar Tips of the Day displayed page. I like being reminded or things that I forget to do using this program.

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    post edited by Jesse G - 2006/03/21 15:07:09

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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 16:01:51 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: TwentyTimesSeven


    20x7




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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 16:25:06 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Elvenking


    ORIGINAL: TwentyTimesSeven


    20x7




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    Forty? 4d? forte?

    Unfortunately, for me, transport-audition has been broken in my DAW since S403PE and remains broken through S501PE.

    After loop recording to a multi-lane track, a transport-audition will finish with a rewind to the start of the project.

    (Not related to "On stop rewind to now marker".)

    20x7

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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/21 16:38:56 (permalink)
    Hi 20x7-
    Unfortunately, for me, transport-audition has been broken in my DAW since S403PE and remains broken through S501PE.

    After loop recording to a multi-lane track, a transport-audition will finish with a rewind to the start of the project.

    That's weird -- it always returns to wherever the Now time was when I pressed Shift-Space when it's finished here. Hmm...
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    And here's another endorsement for "Set Loop Points to Selection". I use this often, and have it bound to Ctrl+Shift+L.

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    RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2006/03/22 07:25:14 (permalink)
    thanks everyone. What a great selection of ideas!. I wish there was some place all these cool hints existed in these forums (or is there?).
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    Re: RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2013/11/30 01:55:57 (permalink)

    Also, is there any way to get Sonar to loop 'just once' i.e every time you press play it will play the loop from beginning to end but then STOP!

    Do either of these:

    1. Right-click on the Time Ruler and select Auto Shuttle; or

    2. Select menu Transport > Loop and Auto Shuttle

    Then in the ensuing dialog box, uncheck "Loop Continuously"



    I have the same problem in sonar X! But the "Loop and Auto Shuttle" is not avalable in X1
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    Re: RE: simplest way to mark and loop 2013/12/01 02:23:22 (permalink)
    Good News!
    However, I could not find "Loop/Auto Shuttle" function in Sonar X1 but I found another way to play one time the selection.It is so easy.
    1. select part of track which going to play
    2. Press "shift"+"space" key
    It starts to play and at the end point automatically stops.
    Regards
    Ramtin
    post edited by ramtin - 2013/12/01 02:37:20
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