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2008/10/06 10:35:40 (permalink)

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Can I fix the problem of my tracks not being in sequence with each other?.When I add additional tracks they seem slower than the previous ones,I have to punch in every 8 measures to keep them in time with each other.Anyone?
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    JD1813
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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 10:44:55 (permalink)
    There's a couple things that can be causing this problem, from MIDI clock/synch settings, soundcard driver settings, latency setting, and such so can you provide us with some basic information about the type of hardware setup you have? Computer level, amount of memory, OS version, and especially which sound card and driver you are presently using when you are recording? Hopefully then we can help you isolate the problem ok?

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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 12:23:08 (permalink)
    Welcome besguitaran...

    Sounds like latency problems related to the use of the computer's factory sound card... Some of the people here have a kind of temporary fix.... but you'll probably need to look at a soundcard/interface upgrade... ( not soundbaster)

    But in the meantime.... give us more info about the computer, soundcard, ram, speed, misc gear you're using and we'll try to get you going.

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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 12:41:26 (permalink)
    I just had 1 gig and a 24 bit soundblaster installed last week.I always put drums (roland tr-707 drum machine) on track 1 and when I record on track 2 they start together and end up way off.I'm not doing anything technical but it seems if I only record guitar tracks with no drums they stay in snyc?.Also on my mc4 main page at the bottom its saying 16 bit,shouldn't it say 24 bit. Thanks buddy!
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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 13:17:45 (permalink)
    the soundblaster is the problem.

    soundblasters typically don't work except at 16bit and 48000Hz. change your project settings to those and then re-record and the tracks should stay in sync.

    however, my best advice is to return the soundblaster and get a soundcard which is suitable for recording. soundblasters are designed for gaming, not recording. check my website for recommendations.

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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 13:42:56 (permalink)
    Midi drums default to channel 10..... when I use midi drums that's where I ALWAYS put them. You can have them in any track but just be sure (if they are midi) that the track send it's data to channel 10.

    If you are recording a drum hardware synth's audio output...yeah...you can put that track anywhere and you don't have to worry about channels and such things...
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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 14:28:35 (permalink)
    One small adjustment, if it is a 24 bit SB card then 24 bit is fine, but you need to set MC to match the 48,000 htz sample rate so all syncs up right

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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 15:55:04 (permalink)
    besguitaran,
    Lots of good input here, but I have to keep looking at the sync between the tr-707 and MC.
    You have indicated that you can record multiple guitar tracks and they stay in sync. The drift only comes in when the tr-707 is in the picture. Do I understand that correctly?
    Is track 1 audio or MIDI?
    If MIDI, is it sending to or recieving from the tr-707?
    If audio, do you also have a MIDI connection? Is the tr-707 slaved to MC?
    Please explain, in detail, how you have the tr-707 connected, and if possible, your signal flow.

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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 16:49:44 (permalink)
    yep - robert's got a point, I read your posts too quickly.

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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 17:19:25 (permalink)
    The Tr -707 is most likley a midi connection, which would sync to the tempo setting of the host, and when recording guitar audio, it would follow the sample rate of the card, and if the host was a different sample rate then the problem would arise.

    If the TR 707 was inputting audio just like the guitar they would both be bound by the same sample rate and have the same characteristics.
    post edited by Robomusic - 2008/10/06 17:23:38

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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 18:53:27 (permalink)
    16 bit 48,000hz did the trick! THANK YOU! Am I recording in 16bit and playing back in 16bit with a 24bit sound card? Also is there a way to add effects BEFORE the recording? Thanks again!
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    RE: snyc 2008/10/06 19:01:04 (permalink)
    One thing to keep in mind, 16 bit 48,000 will work, so will 24 bit 48,000, and give better headroom for digital signal. The 24 bit has nothing to do with the timing it is the sample rate that does that. Picture the bit rate as a studio room with either a 8 foot ceiling or a 10 foot ceiling one has more room for the wave file to stand up in.

    41,400 sample rate verses 48,000 has to do with the length of the sample recorded.

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    RE: snyc 2008/10/07 00:01:24 (permalink)
    Depending on the sound card, 24 bit might only be available through the digital connection, such as was the case with my former sound card, the Sound Blaster Extigy.

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    RE: snyc 2008/10/07 04:48:48 (permalink)
    Lets form an anti-soundblaster club and Herb can be chairman
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