sonar 7 recording audio problem

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2008/11/28 19:28:38 (permalink)

sonar 7 recording audio problem

IM TRYING TO RECORD AUDIO THROUGH THE LINE IN--BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM
WHEN I RECORD SOMETHING YOU CAN SEE THE WAVE FILE BEING PLAYED BUT AS SOON AS I STOP RECORDING THE WAVE DISAPPEARS AND NO RECORDING WAS DONE(EVEN THOUGH IT SHOWS AS BEING ARMED AND I HAVE PRESSED THE RECORD BUTTON(NOT THE PLAY)

SUP WITH THis
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    nprime
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/11/28 19:44:24 (permalink)
    Please turn your capslock off.

    What version of Windows?

    What version of Sonar?

    What is your sound card?

    Do you have the latest drivers for the card?

    Have you highlighted the drivers in the audio options?

    The waveform preveiw draw does not necessarily mean anything is happening.

    Do you see the meters move on the track when record is armed?


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    HYDEGROOVE13
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/11/28 19:52:26 (permalink)
    oops---sorry about the caps

    here are the ansewers to your questions

    Windows Vista

    Version 7 producer edition

    realtek sound card came with comp

    drivers are updated for the sound card

    driver s are highlighted(checked)

    the meters are moving whem it is armed

    im used to xl2.0 verions so this is new

    thanks for your reply and help
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/11/28 20:03:36 (permalink)
    It sounds like you should have success. I can understand why you are perplexed.

    Maybe someone will jump in with a nugget of wisdom. I have nothing.

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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/11/28 20:11:44 (permalink)
    IM TRYING TO RECORD AUDIO THROUGH THE LINE IN--BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM

    what audio?? a mic?? you need a pre amp for a mic? A guitar?? you need hi z inputs for guitar?? your realtec doesnt have any of those.
    did you profile your card in sonar?? whats it say in the options/audio and advanced menu?? Did you go thru the section in the manual on how to set up oan onboard card??
    Your card isnt suited for what you may be trying to do, if your using a mic or guitar or bass guitar. Youll need to learn about signal chains if thats the case
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/12/02 10:42:57 (permalink)
    i am using a pod xt live through the line in on the computer--ive done this with sonar 2.0 and had no problems--not sure sup with this
    the computer does show my card with the 4 in 5 out etc--i have a signal the meters are moving but when i record yiou can see the wave file being recorded but
    as soon as i stop recording it disappears--very strange
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/12/02 10:48:11 (permalink)
    On the input of the audio track, what options do you get?
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/12/02 10:54:13 (permalink)
    Switch to MME driver mode under Options>Audio>General. Your latency will suffer, but with a built in soundcard, its the tradeoff you sometimes have to make.
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/12/02 12:19:54 (permalink)
    i tried using mme driver and it keeps dropping out


    the options on the input of the audio track are

    left realtek HD audio line input(wave Rt)
    right realtek HD audio line input(wave Rt)
    stereo realtek HD audio line input(wave Rt)
    Left realtek HD audio stereo input(wave Rt)
    right realtek HD audio stereo input(wave Rt)
    stereo realtek HD audio stereo input(wave Rt)

    right now it is set to left realtek HD audio line input----i have tried the others with no change

    when i record it looks like it starts to record but doesnt
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/12/02 12:52:29 (permalink)
    tried using mme driver and it keeps dropping out

    That because like jinga said, its a tradeoff using that driver mode. If i was you, i would get a real audio sound card with a Hi-z input and then connect the pod into the soundcard. all the time your onboard card is disabled. This will give you better drivers and better performance.
    This is not sonar2.0, this is a newer version and a different version that needs better resousres. This is from Cakewalk directly...Realtek audio cards are generally provided with your computer. They are designed for general media playback and, though they will work with Cakewalk software, you would get better performance using a device designed specifically for audio recording.
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/12/02 14:02:05 (permalink)
    Ok i think i understand now----can anyone recommend a sound card with hi-z input that is good but easy on the wallet?

    thanks all
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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/12/02 14:07:37 (permalink)
    Are you sure you don't have Auto-Punch on? You mention you can see the wave preview being drawn so this probably isn't the case but I thought I'd mention it just in case. Even though like CJ mentioned above that a sound card designed for audio recording is good, it sounds like you have something else going on. To see about Auto Punch use the F1 key to open help and using the index tab search for Auto Punch.
    post edited by WDI - 2008/12/02 14:11:51

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    RE: SONAR 7 PRODUCER RECORDING AUDIO ISSUE 2008/12/02 14:21:47 (permalink)
    As for Hi-Z, most entry level audio cards come with it. I use the Edirol FA-66 and it has a Hi-Z switch. The Edirol works good as an entry level card. There's definetly nothing wrong with the Edirol cards unless you need more inputs.

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    RE: sonar 7 recording audio problem 2008/12/02 14:50:16 (permalink)
    Hello,

    This phenomenon has been discussed recently.

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1563877&mpage=1&key=�

    I don't think they solved it but misery loves company.

    GK
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    RE: sonar 7 recording audio problem 2008/12/02 15:55:29 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Geokauf

    Hello,

    This phenomenon has been discussed recently.

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1563877&mpage=1&key=�

    I don't think they solved it but misery loves company.

    GK

    Its not relevant. The OP has Sonar 7. But Most have not had a problem with Sonar 8 anyway. 8.02 has solved many of the reported problems. So your point is wrong on both counts.

    Best
    John
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    RE: sonar 7 recording audio problem 2008/12/02 16:00:17 (permalink)
    Hello,

    I think you should lighten up and let the readers decide what is relevant or not. Exact same symptoms says to me it is relevant at the very least to show that it does happen. There could also be a commonality.

    GK
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    RE: sonar 7 recording audio problem 2008/12/02 23:12:17 (permalink)
    I think you should lighten up and let the readers decide what is relevant or not.

    Is John not such a "reader"? Didn't he make the decision you want readers to make (what is relevant or not)? Or do you want readers to "decide what is relevant or not" but not post unless they find it relevant? Hmmm...
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    RE: sonar 7 recording audio problem 2008/12/04 14:48:11 (permalink)
    Is John not such a "reader"? Didn't he make the decision you want readers to make (what is relevant or not)? Or do you want readers to "decide what is relevant or not" but not post unless they find it relevant? Hmmm...

    Hello,

    Greg. You again! Think John can speak for himself? I know you're a student of language, but does the statement above make any sense, language-wise? My response to John concerns someone simply discrediting and dismissing another member's post, by saying "your wrong [period]." Members like John (and yourself) have the time and inclination to "shout down" members who don't have similar time and inclination or don't care to take part in endless (and mostly meaningless) discussion.

    I am replying to you because you are compelled (from time-to-time) to "police" me and this disturbs my enjoyment of the discussion process. If you weren't aware of this you are now. Your reason for picking me out comes from a self-serving belief of superiority based on your imaginary characterization of me.

    I'm not the person you think I am and I personally am not interested in what you have to say in any way shape or form. From one forum member to another, I request that you stop stalking me. Thank you.

    GK

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    RE: sonar 7 recording audio problem 2008/12/04 16:09:47 (permalink)
    Your reason for picking me out comes from a self-serving belief of superiority based on your imaginary characterization of me.

    How do you know? I'll try to stop picking on your posts (which I'll certainly admit to). But how can you possibly sustain the postition that you can know MY motives while simultaneously telling me I can't know YOUR motives? I don't think myself superior to anyone or anything. Have a nice day.
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    RE: sonar 7 recording audio problem 2008/12/04 16:18:54 (permalink)
    Well put Geokauf,

    I find this forum absolutely invaluable for sourcing advice on Sonar and I am sincerely grateful for the people ‘in the know’ to take the time to help others out. However, every so often an abrupt and somewhat 'cutting' response to a reasonable and 'relevant' post (such as your original one) does make me cringe, and I'm left wondering, "why the hell was that called for?"

    Because of this all too often a thread can quickly go totally off topic into a pointless ****ing session, that no one benefits from at all, is a waste of time, and the OP has been long forgotten.

    As you can see from my count, I'm far from a regular poster, but this sort of thing really does strike a chord with me and compels me to contribute.

    Sound advice is imperative on these forums, but sometimes the manner in which one responds is just as significant; if not only for the poster, but for the regular reader like myself.

    Good work


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    RE: sonar 7 recording audio problem 2008/12/07 17:22:27 (permalink)
    How do you know? I'll try to stop picking on your posts (which I'll certainly admit to).

    Hello Greg,

    I'll concede that I don't know your motivation. And, above, you have conceded that you are, in fact, harassing me. So I promise to cease considering your motivation if you promise to leave me alone. I think that is fair.

    GK
    post edited by Geokauf - 2008/12/07 17:24:13
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