sonar x3, Kontakt 5, and pitch wheel

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2015/01/05 01:28:32 (permalink)

sonar x3, Kontakt 5, and pitch wheel

I am having trouble getting midi pitch wheel controls to have an effect on a Kontakt instrument used as a VST soft synth in Sonar X3.    Pitch wheel works fine with kontakt as standalone.  
 
I want to have something like this, a very very simple midi sequence:   PLAY NOTE C5,   BEND NOTE UP WHOLE STEP USING PITCH WHEEL. 
 
One soft synth instance of Kontakt 5, one instrument loaded, one midi track sending notes to the synth.
 
The event list would be:  Note C5  PITCH WHEEL 8100.   The note plays but no pitch change.   
 
Help please!  
 
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    williamcopper
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    Re: sonar x3, Kontakt 5, and pitch wheel 2015/01/05 01:35:19 (permalink)
    Incidentally if I use one of the sonar bundled soft synths  (SI-String Section) pitch bend works fine.
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    Re: sonar x3, Kontakt 5, and pitch wheel 2015/01/05 01:53:06 (permalink)
    Well, I read Bob's great post  http://forum.cakewalk.com/Sonar-X3-and-Kontakt-5-per-Bobs-request-m3030422.aspx#3030422 here and somehow pitchbend now works with Kontakt, when I did as he suggested and created individual audio and midi tracks with matching names.    Thanks Bob and all!  
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    Re: sonar x3, Kontakt 5, and pitch wheel 2015/01/05 16:15:59 (permalink)
    I should point out that NONE of what I had written in that other post dealt with any part of pitch bend event handling whatsoever.
     
    If pitch bend is working for you in Kontakt, it will be simply because whatever instrument preset you have loaded happens to have its parameters set to react to pitch bend events.
     
    Quite simply put - in Kontakt, some instruments are set up to react to pitch bends, and some are not.
     
    In the past I had some problems with some Kontakt instruments not being set to respond to Pitch Bend data, which hadn't been a problem until I worked on a project needing to bend some bass notes, and found it just didn't respond.
     
     
    What I found I needed to do, was to open up the particular instrument's controls within the Kontakt multi-rack, and set it to react to Pitch Bend events, and save it as a new preset in Kontakt, so as not to alter the original factory settings.
     
    Once I did the above, I could load up the newly-created preset and it would then react to pitch bends exactly as I had set it up to do.
     
    I hope that helps.
     
    Bob Bone
     

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    Re: sonar x3, Kontakt 5, and pitch wheel 2015/01/05 16:19:00 (permalink)
    Thanks.   That's a good description of what to do.  Those modern instruments with many articulations driven by secret Kontakt scripts make such control very difficult, but I think my problem was actually about routing in Sonar, which your great post re Kontakt outputs clarified.
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    Re: sonar x3, Kontakt 5, and pitch wheel 2015/01/05 21:55:54 (permalink)
    For whatever the worth, Key Switches are visible on the little keyboard at the bottom of the Kontakt instance UI, and you can also expose and change them within the multi-rack for a given loaded instrument, if that helps any.
     
    Bob Bone
     

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