Beagle
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sorry - removed for now for a rework. I'll repost it soon! thanks!
Complete makeover in progress! I'll post it again when I'm done! thanks everyone for looking and listening if you've already been here! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16/44.1 download available from soundcloud also, a video is available on youtube: Lead Vocals, Piano, Drum Programming and Strings: Beagle Bass: Ed Kocol (featuring his Alembic bass - did you know he had an Alembic???) Contralto: Beverly Bain (Mrs. Beagle) Alto and "Answer Leads": Yvonne Utz [Stings are Kontakt standard library, Piano is New York Pop Me! Kontakt Piano, Drums are Superior Drummer/Music City SDX] All comments are welcome!
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eko
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This is a nice song with good harmonies and Yvonne is doing a great work as well. Rock on Beagle
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Lynn
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This is a nice song, Beagle. It has a smooth feel that contrasts well with your lyrics. Yours and Yvonne's voices go together so sweetly; in fact, I would like to hear them a little louder, especially Yvonne's. Ed's bass tones are always rich and round, and this is no exception. As for the mix, everything is in its place and clear as a bell. My only nit is that the overall mix sounds sequenced and not quite natural. Part of it may be due to the drums which sound dated to me. Without knowing what you're using, it's hard to make a suggestion, but less processing on the drums may help it blend in with the other instruments better. The only other thought would be to back off on the quantization a bit which would help it to sound less rigid. Still, I like the song and the strong lyrics. I hope this helps.
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I like the high female vocal in my left ear (if I have the buds in correctly) Ed's not a bad bass player either :-) You're lucky to have him. But LEARN TO PLAY THAT DARN BASS REECE! It's not that hard. Playing it really well takes practice... But it is an elemental instrument... That I know you are trying to play, "do not give up." I colab w/Markno999? He is a master guitar player. I'll never be as good as he is? Even though I've been playing all of my life? But I can play the damn guitar, and I won't give it up. Don't give up on the bass. Having access to people we look up to is a good thing? But don't give up on the bass. And yes, your vocals are improving. Keep that up as well, good job.
post edited by The Band19 - 2012/11/24 22:49:09
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Janet
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I like this, Reece! Good tune and a good arrangement and good strong vocals. :) Nice one!
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Enjoyed this Reece! Your voice is really coming along nicely. Only major crits in this are the drums seem a bit loud to me and the kick and toms are over-powering everything in my opinion. Kick could probably use a little less beater attack as it makes it a brutal stab. A bit much for a song like this in my humble opinion. But it's also pretty loud in the mix, so dropping it about -2.5 dB may allow it to fit nicely.
Re Lynn's comment about things being sequenced: I hear this also...like there aren't enough different velocities to make it realistic. It doesn't sound robotic or anything, just a bit too evenly played like all the velocities were set to 100 or something. Nothing bad or anything though....sort of subjective you might say.
Those few things should be super easy to fix though and this would be really great. Really nice on the performances though Reece and everyone involved, and I love the song as well as the message. It's good just the way it is...but if I were to make any changes, the above is where I'd start. :)
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Enjoyed the song...definitely has a bit much on the drums..made some of the vocals seem to disappear...
Great lyrics and basswork!!
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Nice toon Reece...as aways. I agree about the drums, though I wouldn't have known how to say it... except I thought they were a bit heavy.
The song is good, so is the message.
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I want to thank Reece (our becan chompin' Beagle) for asking me to play bass on this tune. It's the least I could do for him after all the help he gives me.
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Great job, Reece and company.
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Beagle
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eko - thank you! I'll definitely pass that on to Yvonne, too! Lynn - thanks for the listen and comments! I appreciate it very much! I'm using Superior Drummer Music City SDX and the hits came (mostly) from those MIDI loops in that package. Unfortunately, I "over did" the kick & toms because I was using the backing track live for us to sing it in church. I've tamed the drums some and will be uploading a new version soon. thanks again! Robby - yes, Yvonne should in your left ear (she's the higher voice) and Beverly in the right. I'll pass that on to her! And I appreciate very much your comments about my vocals. I know you've been one of my biggest critics in the past, but that's a good thing because it drives me to do better! As far as the bass.....yeah, I have a bass and I have been intending to learn it. but I've not spent enough time on it.  I will try to get to it and I appreciate the nudging! I've just been working a lot lately and life has been rough lately too, so it's been all I can do just to get a little vocal and piano practice in occassionally. I also have an acoustic that I intentions of learning as well... cest le vie! thank you very much for the encouragement and comments! I appreciate it! I'm working on a new mix. making the changes I am you'd think would not change the mix that much, but it actually changes it drastically and I have to compensate! thanks again! I'll get back to the rest of you soon!
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Good tune, and performances all the way 'round.
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Beagle
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Janet - thanks so much! I appreciate you listening and your feedback! (and of course I always love the compliments on my vocals!!!)
Dave - thanks so much! I appreciate it!
Danny - I very much appreciate you stopping by and taking the time to listen and write out a good crit. I've actually changed quite a bit of stuff since you listened, part of it based on what you've said and part of it based on the fact that I forgot to add my "mastering" plugins to it (DOH!).
on the velocity of the piano - you're dead on! and actually I recorded it that way (I did play it on my digital piano). the reason I had played it that way was some of the same reason the drums were loud ealier (well, that was part of the reason the drums were loud). originally when practicing this song, it was just the 3 of us and my piano, so the piano had to be the rhythm section as well as the accompaniment, so I intentionally played it all pretty even (and hard) so that the girls would be able to hear their timing cues.
long story, I know. but bottom line, I've gone back and edited it and added some dynamics to the velocities.
I changed the EQ on the kick and brought it down a little in the mix as well as bringing all of the drums down some.
thanks so much for the great compliments and comments Danny! Always appreciate it!
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There's a new mix up now! (same link)
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This sounds good Reece. nice arrangement
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Sounds much better now Reese. Cool tune.
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Reece
Danny - I very much appreciate you stopping by and taking the time to listen and write out a good crit. I've actually changed quite a bit of stuff since you listened, part of it based on what you've said and part of it based on the fact that I forgot to add my "mastering" plugins to it (DOH!).
on the velocity of the piano - you're dead on! and actually I recorded it that way (I did play it on my digital piano). the reason I had played it that way was some of the same reason the drums were loud ealier (well, that was part of the reason the drums were loud). originally when practicing this song, it was just the 3 of us and my piano, so the piano had to be the rhythm section as well as the accompaniment, so I intentionally played it all pretty even (and hard) so that the girls would be able to hear their timing cues.
long story, I know. but bottom line, I've gone back and edited it and added some dynamics to the velocities.
I changed the EQ on the kick and brought it down a little in the mix as well as bringing all of the drums down some.
thanks so much for the great compliments and comments Danny! Always appreciate it! Ah I like long stories Reece....I share enough with you and everyone else. LOL! I had a feeling there was a reason for some of those velocities. I've done that myself in a few instances when I've just programmed something instead of played it in real time. New mix sounds a lot better. I gotta ask though before I continue....did you by chance forget to remove ARC on this before exporting? It's got a strange sound to it that I've heard before when I've forgotten to remove ARC. Any chance of that? This is way better though. I'd like to hear a little something on your voice effect wise, but that of course is subjective. It just sounds a little dry compared to your wife who I think has a good effect on her voice. Good job on the changes. By the way, have you ever tried the CAL files for varied velocity? They really work incredibly well in situations like this. Of course on certain intimate sections, you will have to adjust velocities individually depending on what you want, but the vary velocity CAL is awesome when you get the right lowest velocity/highest velocity combo going on. Really nice job Reece...everything is coming along nicely with your skills. :) -Danny
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Nice! Very inspiring lyrics. I was thinking of adding a shaker to give the song a bit more speed, sort of like Jars of Clay first CD.
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Beagle
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Barry - thanks very much! I appreciate it! I'm currently completely reworking the drums based on comments from folks. thanks!
Julien - thanks for the listen and the great comments! I have more problems with the drums than I thought. I'm working on a new drum mix now. thanks for your comments!
Jan - thanks mate! I appreciate it very much!
Baps - thanks for helping on this! in more ways than one! you're a good friend (no matter what Mooch Robby Steve Daryk JB everyone says about you!)
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Beagle
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Philz - thanks my man!! I appreciate it very much! Marcus - thanks for the listen and comments! I appreciate it very much! Michael - thank you sir! I appreciate your comments (here and there!  ) Danny - thanks again for your help! I'm working on a major rework of this. I obviously wasn't paying close enough attention when I released it thinking it was ready!  I'll post a complete homey makeover when I'm done! thanks again! Vicente - thanks so much for stopping by and listening and the comments! I'll consider adding a shaker - I'm reworking the drums completely at this point, so I might just do that! thanks again! I've taken the song down for public for now while I rework it! I'll post it again when I get 'er done! thanks everyone! this has been a big wake up call for me not to be lazy with the mix!
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Git'r done Beag. I came here expecting a song... ...when you are ready...
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Beagle
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sorry 'bout that JB! I pulled the trigger too soon!
I'll bring it back soon - maybe this weekend?
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Look forward to it Reece. My workplace has put a filter against soundcloud (but not oddly soundclick!) so I have to remember to listen from home - by which time I'm either eating, or get swept away in my own stuff!
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