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sound from keyboard
I am finally getting the idea of how this works. Right now I am doing Tutorial 3 at Playing Music on a Keyboard. Following the instructions, I should hear the piano from the keyboard speakers but nothing is happening. I can hear everything else playing directly from the US-122L Tascam interface on headphones. Options/MIDI devices shows Input choice as Tascam US-122L MIDI and Output choices as Tascam US-122L MIDI and Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth with the Tascam box checked. As far as I can tell, I have everything connected properly. When trying Recording MIDI, I was able to get sound from the keyboard. Keyboard is set to MIDI with Local-off. It is a Yamaha PSR 230. I have a Roland stage piano but space makes it easier to use the Yamaha during my trial and error period. Any idea what I have set up wrong? Everything else has worked to this point.
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57Gregy
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Re:sound from keyboard
2011/10/31 19:11:19
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You say you can hear "everything else" playing from the TASCAM. What is everything else? Do you have the Yamaha's headphone/line out plugged into anything? Does the keyboard have it's own speakers?
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daveny5
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Re:sound from keyboard
2011/10/31 22:38:47
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Turn Input Echo on (the button next to M S R).
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Re:sound from keyboard
2011/11/03 15:50:32
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I had a poor choice of words when I said 'everything else'. What I should have said was that all of the instructions in the tutorial had worked until I was trying to hear from the keyboard. The Yamaha does have its own speakers and I don't have anything plugged into its headphone jack. When I was doing the MIDI recording tutorial, I could hear from the keyboard speakers. Right now, in the audio tutorial, I can only hear from the headphones connected to the Tascam. If I disconnect the phones from the Tascam, I hear nothing.
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Re:sound from keyboard
2011/11/03 15:52:30
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Checked on that and it was turned on. Thanks. I would have never noticed that. I will be sure to watch out for that, too, if I can ever figure out how to get the sound to come from the keyboard. Maybe I just need to connect speakers to the Tascam!
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Re:sound from keyboard
2011/11/03 19:23:04
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Does the Yamaha show up on your preferences as an audio device? (under audio devices) I'm assuming that you have the TASCAM set up as the audio output, but you want to send the audio to your Yamaha? Glen
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Re:sound from keyboard
2011/11/03 20:10:06
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I may be misunderstanding how you're set up, but audio does not go through the MIDI cables. If you want to hear the PSR play through the TASCAM, you'll have to connect audio cables from the Yamaha to the US-122. Or, the MIDI notes you recorded aren't being played by the keyboard on playback? Check you MIDI track's output, channel, bank and patch settings.
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Re:sound from keyboard
2011/11/08 00:15:38
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Thanks for the good suggestions. I connected an audio cable from the output jack of the Yamaha into the line in of the Tascam interface. Recording from the midi tracks to the audio track worked then. Makes me feel good after all of the struggling to set everything right. What I think right now is that I will be able to hear the MIDI tracks through the keyboard speakers but I will have to hear the audio tracks from the headphones plugged into the Tascam. I am also assuming that if I want to record MIDI tracks and audio tracks together, I will have to record all together to a new audio track and only hear the result from headphones or speakers connected to the Tascam. Is my thinking right? I don't quite understand the bounce tracks technique yet but I think that must be involved with getting all of this together.
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Re:sound from keyboard
2011/11/08 09:39:07
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I am also assuming that if I want to record MIDI tracks and audio tracks together, I will have to record all together to a new audio track and only hear the result from headphones or speakers connected to the Tascam. When you say "record them together" do you mean at the same time? You record MIDI data to MIDI tracks and audio to audio tracks. You'd have to have the audio output of the keyboard sent to the Tascam if you expect to hear it in the headphones.
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Re:sound from keyboard
2011/11/08 10:38:00
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If you want to use the sounds of your keyboard instead of the sounds of software synthesizers, I suggest you buy a small audio mixer. Plug the audio outs of the keyboard and the TASCAM into the mixer and monitor everything from there with speakers or headphones. That's how I do it. Bouncing involves combining several different things and rendering them to a (usually) single seperate track. For instance, a MIDI track and it's associated soft synth track, or several vocal or instrument tracks you want to combine into one. Or the entire song into one track for export, mastering and burning to CD, or making an mp3 to send the song over the internet. You cannot bounce a MIDI track whose output is set to your keyboard. The synth producing the sound is outside the computer, so there will be no sound to bounce. That's why you have to record the audio output of the keyboard to an audio track in SONAR to actually get the sound into the song.
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