specs for Z3ta 2.0?

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2011/07/30 10:53:39 (permalink)

specs for Z3ta 2.0?

So..its coming..
 
but where is all the juicy stuff?.. specs?..
 
Yes it looks like its got a nice GUI... but #1 on my wish list is midi out of the arps.. its a real pain to try to reverse engineer simply to integrate a great arp/patch with a composition.
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    Willy Jones [Cakewalk]
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/04 13:13:28 (permalink)

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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/04 13:43:52 (permalink)
    Willy Jones [Cakewalk
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    http://www.cakewalk.com/products/Z3TA/


    Can you please tell us: will installation of Z3TA+ 2 overwrite the earlier version?  I would like to have the old and new version concurrently available.
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    Brian Desmond [Cakewalk]
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/04 13:47:06 (permalink)
    Hi Mystic38,

    You can load your own custom MIDI arps in Z2 :)
    post edited by Brian Desmond [Cakewalk] - 2011/08/10 09:21:34
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    Brian Desmond [Cakewalk]
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/04 13:47:49 (permalink)
    Hi dmbaer,

    Z3TA+ 2 is a totally different product, so you can install them both and use them side by side.
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/04 13:52:13 (permalink)
    Z3TA 2 does not overwrite the earlier version. You can customize where you want to install it, both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions. You do need to run the standalone version as Administrator in Vista or Windows 7 to enter your registration code and complete the software authorization. Your serial number is entered during the installation process. 

    Hope this helps!
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/04 14:58:29 (permalink)
    where  is the demo ?& manual ?
     you dont expect people to buy without trying ,surely ?

    i also need to know if  the complete overhaul means i can now load any & all my single cycle wavs ( including my galbanums ) without pratting* around limited to six  (l)user samples import.
     also if fm/am osc modulation is any osc to any osc & no longer sequential

    these two reasons are why i stopped using z3ta1.

    (*uk english, please insert american here......)
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/04 18:18:13 (permalink)
    Can you tell me if microtuning support is implemented in Z3TA+2?
    It was in the original Z3TA+ by scala file support in the pitch mod window.
     
    I heard that this feature was dropped from Z3TA+2 for some very silly reason, but I and many others requested it as it's absolutely essential for all people who work with microtones.
    Many expirimental people in the west (like IDM artists, including Aphex Twin etc), and the whole of the middle east for instance (they don't use 12tone equal temperament either) need microtuning support!!
    I'd buy Z3TA+2 right now if microtuning is supported like it was in Z3TA+ (and is in Rapture and Dimension Pro), but without it I can't use it at all.
     
    Btw I love how the audio demos sound!
    Congratulations!
    But please, tell me it has microtuning support. Please please.
    post edited by justintonation - 2011/08/04 18:21:14
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/05 07:51:32 (permalink)
    waveboy

    i also need to know if  the complete overhaul means i can now load any & all my single cycle wavs ( including my galbanums ) without pratting* around limited to six  (l)user samples import.

    The Galbanum waveforms will work, but 32-bit is still not supported, you need to convert them to 16-bit first, just as in z3ta 1.5. And you still only have 6 user waveform slots.
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/05 07:59:20 (permalink)
    justintonation

    Can you tell me if microtuning support is implemented in Z3TA+2?
    Looks like it's gone. It's no longer in the Options menu and there's no mention of it in the manual.


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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/05 10:44:03 (permalink)
    Hi Brian!..
     
    A great surprise this morning over my Starbucks was to see the release.. made my day..:)
     
    so its purchased and downloaded...
     
    Now, my question on arps was not whether I can input my own sequence patterns.. (which i recall was available on Z1.5) tho this i may well do now, particularly due to the standalone mode..(which i really appreciate btw), but it more of a question whether Z2 can output its arp midi data.. so that i can bounce the sequence into Sonar X1...
     
    In Z1.5 this was not possible and so it was a complete PITA to integrate a sequenced pattern from Z1.5 into a composition.. I needed to reverse engineer the pattern/chord structure in order to (for example) make a gated chord or bass pattern to fit with a lead arp sequence from Z1.5.. and by the time i spent hours doing this all the ideas had gone...lol
     
    This is a much needed feature to smooth my flow (and others according to multiple threads in the forum), and would allow me to take real and full advantage of Z2..
     
    thx, Ian
     
    oh..p.s. I was guilty initially of being lazy and confusing arps and sequences... so, on the subject of real arp patterns (not sequences), .. can Z2 actually load user arp patterns?.. this would be way cool.. not important, like midi out of sequences.. but cool..:D
     
     
     
    Brian Desmond [Cakewalk
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    Hi Mystic38,

    You can load your own customer MIDI arps in Z2 :)


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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/07 08:33:40 (permalink)
     Ok thanks for checking! I've done 2 feature request about this a few weeks ago and posted on this forum and others, but have received no reply at all from someone at cakewalk. I guess I can forget about microtonality in cakewalk products from now on.. this sadly means no more cakewalk for me.
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/07 12:15:06 (permalink)
    I've done 2 feature request about this a few weeks ago and posted on this forum and others, but have received no reply at all from someone at cakewalk.


    Thanks for the feedback and sorry for any confusion.  We don't respond to every feature request but we do read and review every single one of them.  Unfortunately we couldn't keep scala support in Z3TA+ 2 but we do hear you loud and clear.

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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/07 15:07:34 (permalink)
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    Hi Mystic38,

    You can load your own customer MIDI arps in Z2 :)


    That's cool and all - but not what he was after. (See Mystic38's last post above as well)    I constantly run into this when using Z3TA presets that use an arp - having to reverse engineer the arp back to the actual midi notes in order to tweak a particular arp pattern to a song.
     
    Midi Out of the Arp would greatly ease this problem.
    post edited by 1 2 Many - 2011/08/07 15:14:21
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/07 15:35:17 (permalink)
    Information that should be in the User Manual

    MIDI import:
    How to create a Midi file that will work properly
    What MIDI data is read/preserved?
    The old import read these parameters:
    1- Note On, Note Off
    2- Velocity (z3ta+ patch should take care of -what- velocity does).
    3- Pitch Bend (z3ta+ patch should set the pitch bend range to required and any extra assignment of it).
    4- Polyphonic aftertouch.
    All other events in the .mid file were filtered out (metaevents, aftertouch, controllers, etc.)
     
    Is that info still valid?
     
    Wav file import: 
    The old specs were - The wave files must be mono, up to 64k samples, in any samplerate. (which I think was incomplete since it won't load 24 bit files only 16bit and an outdated 32 bit format)
     
    What are the new requirments?
     
    While on the subject - I concur with waveboy about how tedious  loading and previewing the USER waves is.  I was really hoping that aspect would be improved.  The ability to set a directory for each USER WAV and click scroll through the wavs (like you can click scroll the oscill.set wavs would be a godsend
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    Re:specs for Z3ta 2.0? 2011/08/07 22:31:13 (permalink)
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    I've done 2 feature request about this a few weeks ago and posted on this forum and others, but have received no reply at all from someone at cakewalk.


    Thanks for the feedback and sorry for any confusion.  We don't respond to every feature request but we do read and review every single one of them.  Unfortunately we couldn't keep scala support in Z3TA+ 2 but we do hear you loud and clear.

     
    Hi Willy,
     
    Thanks for your reply!
    I'm glad to hear the feature request got through.
     
    Can you tell me if there's any chance of re-implementing Scala support in Z3TA+ 2 anytime soon?
    Seems like it would be an easy thing to do since the code is already there in the original Z3TA+ (we don't need anything fancy, hide it in an option menu no problem, as long as it's possible somehow).
     
    Also, if the answer to the above question is no, does this mean there's no longer a will at Cakewalk for somewhat supporting microtuning in general (including future updates of other instruments etc)?
    This would be very sad. There's no DAW on Windows that does anything for microtonalists while it's much needed (while Logic has done very good things in this direction for the Mac recently)
     
    Kind regards,
    Marcel
    post edited by justintonation - 2011/08/07 22:32:52
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