splitting drum (soft synth) into multiple tracks

I do all my drum editing w/ the mouse to I have to have it be a single track to start and split at the end.

why?
I use Superior drummer and I edit all of my drum hits with a mouse and I don't see why you have to have them all on separate tracks for editing.  maybe if you explained why you think that's necessary I could help with a different approach?

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This just cant be this difficult. I have read about 30 threads explaining to use CAL script which I tried and it seemed to do nothing. Then I tried cloning a track X times and removing the kit pieces but it removed the predecessor track's kit pieces as well.

You must make sure that when you copy the clips, they are not linked to the source clips. Otherwise a change in the new one will affect the old one (which is usually what you want). But... (see below)

So I have superior drummer as a softsynth in Sonar. I do all my drum editing w/ the mouse to I have to have it be a single track to start and split at the end.

I am not mixing / mastering myself so the ultimate goal is to convert each kit piece to its own audio track so it can be exported. I read a lot about sending different pieces of the kit to different busses for effects and such but that is not something I wish to do.

...if you want to process different parts of the drum kit separately then separating out the MIDI is the wrong thing to do. Instead you want to have Superior output to multiple audio outputs. Thus you have 1 MIDI perforance into the synth, which then produces multiple audio outputs which you can mix independently.

Are you using Superior Drummer 1 or 2? Either way, try removing the synth and adding it back in, this time ensuring that 'all synth audio outputs (stereo)' is selected, instead of 'first synth audio output (stereo)'.

Kylotan

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This just cant be this difficult. I have read about 30 threads explaining to use CAL script which I tried and it seemed to do nothing. Then I tried cloning a track X times and removing the kit pieces but it removed the predecessor track's kit pieces as well.

You must make sure that when you copy the clips, they are not linked to the source clips. Otherwise a change in the new one will affect the old one (which is usually what you want). But... (see below)

So I have superior drummer as a softsynth in Sonar. I do all my drum editing w/ the mouse to I have to have it be a single track to start and split at the end.

I am not mixing / mastering myself so the ultimate goal is to convert each kit piece to its own audio track so it can be exported. I read a lot about sending different pieces of the kit to different busses for effects and such but that is not something I wish to do.

...if you want to process different parts of the drum kit separately then separating out the MIDI is the wrong thing to do. Instead you want to have Superior output to multiple audio outputs. Thus you have 1 MIDI perforance into the synth, which then produces multiple audio outputs which you can mix independently.

Are you using Superior Drummer 1 or 2? Either way, try removing the synth and adding it back in, this time ensuring that 'all synth audio outputs (stereo)' is selected, instead of 'first synth audio output (stereo)'.

+1 - exactly why I asked why he "needed" to do it that way! 

If you cloned a midi track, made changes to a clone and it made the same changes in the original track, then you may have LINKED the new tracks to the original when you cloned them. Make sure the box outlined in red in the image below is NOT checked when you clone a track, unless you want them linked.




You can use multiple Midi tracks, or just one as has already been mentioned. Insert the soft synth with All Synth Audio Outputs: Stereo when you insert the synth and it will insert several audio tracks for the synth. Each drum on its own channel. So while the kick drum, snare, toms, cymbals, etc will all be on the same MIDI track, each drum will have its own AUDIO track which can be processed separately from the other drum sounds. Each drum channel track will have its own FX bin, EQ, sends and output.

You CAN use multiple midi tracks for different drums sounds with this configuration if you want. I don't really have a preference and can use one drum track or several. Doesn't really make much difference to me. Sometimes I'll put the kick, snare, toms on one track and have a separate Midi track for cymbals. It's up to you. Some people prefer one way, some others. It all works the same so see what works best for you.

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Um, Can't wait to buy the Scrubs DVD (WTF was that?)
 

that's a spammer,  correction, idiot spammer.  It has been reported as such.

To Beagle: I am sure I am totally missing something but how I do it is:
insert softsynth > Superior Drummer
that creates an instrument track
I build everything in PRV on that Track.

Now I want to split that track out to audio tracks (1 per drum) that can be exported.

 
ok, but you still didn't answer my question - "WHY?"  why do you feel you need to split it out?  what benefit is there in splitting it out?

This morning, I learned I can tell SD that I want it to be multichannel, and then I get a track representation for each instrument but I don't see anything in track view where those tracks are, I see the meters jumping during playback. but nothing that can be exported as I see in my recorded guitar / Bass / Vocal tracks.

OK - that's GOOD!  but in order to split the different kit pieces out into the separate output tracks, you have to click on the SD mixer.  then you can click on the output of each kit piece and assign it to a different output track!  that's how you get multiple outs!

Also setting it up as multichannel I think needs to be done preemptively. I need to separate the instrument track after it has been built.

no, you don't!  that's why I keep asking why you want to do it this way.  it's not necessary at all!  see my response above.  if you still need help with how to do that, let me know and I'll post a screen shot.

bit - I myself don't even use the buses in SD - just the multiple outputs.  the buses make it more flexible, but I haven't found a need for it myself - the multiple outputs are flexible enough for me unless I'm missing something!

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So I sort of have that going. At the bottom is my SD track w/ Midi notes in it.
Look at tracks 6, 7, 10, and 11.

The meters are firing there for individual notes but there is no track view representation of those notes. How would I export those 4 tracks to an audio file 

go back and read my last post - especially the bold part.  (you probably were posting while I was and missed it)_

That's what I have:

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So I sort of have that going. At the bottom is my SD track w/ Midi notes in it.
Look at tracks 6, 7, 10, and 11.

The meters are firing there for individual notes but there is no track view representation of those notes. How would I export those 4 tracks to an audio file

ok - what are the OUTPUTS of those tracks set to?

"ok - what are the OUTPUTS of those tracks set to? "

ASIO UX2

I'd not recommend you sending it directly to the soundcard.  you need to use a master bus.  always sum at the master bus and have only the master bus set to the soundcard output.

also,

The meters are firing there for individual notes but there is no track view representation of those notes. How would I export those 4 tracks to an audio file

just turn on the WAVE PREVIEW by clicking on the icon on each track.  the output is THERE, you just don't see anything because it's a synth - if you want to SEE it, then you have to click on the wave preview.

Success!
Can't say Thanks enough. I have been trying to work through this since 4 AM this morning.