Kroneborge
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starting volume of new tracks
When I start a new track, I like to put it at around -6db to give myself some extra headroom, is there a way to change the default? Thanks,
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:starting volume of new tracks
2011/02/04 16:30:05
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There's no default for input level in SONAR, because the input level is defined and set in your soundcard. SONAR has no means to affect that. Actually, what is it that you have thought is a default input level?? The volume slider? Trim? They both only affect the output/playback.
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Kroneborge
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Re:starting volume of new tracks
2011/02/04 17:06:24
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Yes I'm referring to the output level of the track. So say I insert a new synth, I want the output level to start at -6db, instead of 0 db.
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Re:starting volume of new tracks
2011/02/05 04:58:23
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Re:starting volume of new tracks
2011/02/05 05:51:01
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you want it to be less than that. -12 to -18, assuming you are going to have more than 4 tracks in the project as a whole.
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Re:starting volume of new tracks
2011/02/05 06:17:01
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Kroneborge
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Re:starting volume of new tracks
2011/02/05 10:28:02
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"you want it to be less than that. -12 to -18" Thanks for the tip As regards to track templates, I thought that was only if you wanted say like 10 audio tracks at the start etc. But I don't know which synths I'm going to use for each project.
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Re:starting volume of new tracks
2011/02/05 11:02:33
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(Here is where I display a lack of knowledge...) So if I am recording a 5 peice band, a few vocals, 2 guitars, bass, drums... when I put a mic on a guitar cabinet & test the levels before recording I should set it to be around -12 to -18db ? Could you be kind enough to explain he benefit? I just kinda figured it better to capture the signal hot (but not peaking into the red zone) then I cound always turn it down as needed. It's obvious that I am apparently wrong here, I'd just like to know why that approach is wrong?
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Re:starting volume of new tracks
2011/02/05 11:17:14
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Could you be kind enough to explain he benefit? I just kinda figured it better to capture the signal hot (but not peaking into the red zone) then I cound always turn it down as needed. 0dbvu = 18dbFS Your analogue gear (mic pre's etc) should be designed to work optimally at 0dbu (+4) (at the point where it's putting out 1.2volts (thereabouts)). With 24bit recording you have enough finesse in the way the data is written and enough headroom such that you don't have to go near the top of the digital meter, as we all know digital distortion (overs) sounds horrible. By tracking with a sensible input level you get the best performance out of your analogue gear, you also leave enough headroom in your mixbuss such that you can do all sorts of processing and not have to turn the buss / master down to get it all back in under 0dbfs before conversion. There are a number of other arguments to support this approach relating to 'intersample peaks' and issues of clipping fixed point numbers in plugins before returning to floating point streams, which I don't pretend to understand! The bottom line however is that you're less likely to encounter these if you use the headroom provided by a modern system as it's intended i.e. as headroom! Cheers Child
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