synth patch inventory

this apparently seems to be a silly question, but i can't find a list of patches anywhere except in the synths themselves.
i have used the synth's name as an index search word and looked around in the obvious places and haven't found anything.

am i missing something?
thanks

kinda makes it tough to know what you've got on hand.
hardware synths/tone generators listed this info in the user manual.
i consider this to be essential, other wise, ten synth's worth of patches must be committed to memory.

that's bogus and corner cutting.

seems to be a bit more complicated than looking at a list.
what was the thinking behind omitting the patch list?
it makes no sense to me. was it too much work to include it or something? well it's a lot more work to find stuff w/o it. now you have to open the synth to see what in it and if you don't find what you need, you've got to open another, and so on, instead of just having lists in you hand for each to refer to and cross reference. people complain about an extra click here and there slowing down their work flow, well what about this? whatever...

Teksonik

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hardware synths/tone generators listed this info in the user manual.

That's because they only shipped with 128 presets.....................

There are hundreds of presets that could be added to Z3ta+ and Rapture's libraries and more are created all the time. How do you expect a DAW owners manual to keep track of them all? As for the factory presets there's just too many to list?

I'm afraid you'll have to do your own housekeeping...............yea I know bogus.  Take a screenshot of every bank for Zeta+ for example and print it out..................

then the manufacturers of the synths should at least have a list on their web site with the patches that the synths ship with. if they wanted to go the extra mile, they could update the list. if i/we can take screen shots and print them or do something like what swallis proposed in the post above, they can keep a list that much easier. i don't think this is an unreasonable expectation. i think it's laziness on the part of the manufacturers.

here's a for instance, i spent quite a while looking through the included synths for a female "ooh" vocal and finally found one (not a great one either) in the  cakewalk tts1. i don't know if there is another one somewhere else because i got tired of looking for a needle in a haystack and just took what i could find.

there were a couple of really good female "aahs" in dim pro, but no "oohs."

so in that sense, a viewable list that doesn't require opening the synth would prevent a lot of wasted time and frustration.

i can see this recurring on a regular basis.

if a daw or synth manufacturer (or both in this case) is looking for ways to improve workflow...

After doing a search inside Kore 2, i have found that a patch list wouldn't help you find the 'ooh' sounds that you're looking for... Because there arn't any inside any Cakewalk Synths/Samplers(!)

Plenty of 'aah's, but not a single 'ooh.'

There's some inside Kontakt 4, which may be included in the sounds that you get with the free Kontakt Player that you can download from Native Instruments. There's nothing else from NI either. Can you believe that - you get 10,000 sounds when you buy Komplete 7, but only 2 of them are female O vowels. Alto, or Soprano.


On a side note, i agree with AT, and suggest that for synth sounds, a patch listing would be pretty much useless. By that i mean that you could want a certain bass sound, so you find one by name that works ok - but there's proberly a better fitting sound that has some weird name that you'd never connect it that sound.

Cakewalk's Sound Centre is a big a step in the right direction, but obviously needs further development to allow us to add and 'tag' our own sounds, and include more than just Dim Pro and Rapture in it's included sounds.

Cakewalk Sound Centre is very very simular to Kore 2, but Kore 2 allows you to add and tag your own sounds, it features a much more indepth  browser for finding sounds, and you can create 8 different versions of a sound (or 8 completly different sounds) and morph between them. And it's not a simple crossfade that raises and lowers volume, it changes the parmeters of the synth.

You can use it as a host aswell. If you make electronic music and/or use a lot of synths, i honestly cannot recommend Kore 2 enough - not just for the browser function, but for everything else it has to offer.

P.S. I don't work for NI BTW, i just really like Kore 2 because it's speeded up my workflow so much.

there is an easy way to do it.. I've done it for the DSF stuff, made patch lists of it

if your old skool and did DOS , then all you do, locate the "programs" folder of the sounds

go out to cmd prompt

dir *.prog /s > c:\patches.txt

exit DOS

open up ya fav text editor and load up

 away ya go :)

the browsers for some of the cake synths aren't standard.. as a kore user (full version) it's a major annoyance as I can't just pick them.. if they stuck to it like in z3ta.. then makes life easier