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2014/02/15 10:04:51 (permalink)

synth rack in X3

I was having a few issues with X2 so thought I'd try the X3 trial.
I opened an existing project and went to browser/insert synth and see the name of an existing custom layout but no synths listed.
I went to manage plug-ins/vsti and see 2 folders, one named vst2 and another named direct x.
I opened vst folder and see most of my synths but they're all greyed out except for a folder named Rapture.
I clicked on the Rapture folder and see Rapture greyed out.
I then clicked on one of the synths (Aria Player) under the registered synths column and then add plug-in and it's added to the vst folder and is not greyed out (YAY!).
I saved the layout with a new name and went back to insert synth.
I see my newly made layout but that's it, no synths.
I searched here for "synth rack x3" and got no results...huh?!
Then I googled "site: forum.cakewalk.com synth rack x3" but didn't find an answer.
Can someone please tell me what the heck I'm missing?
Thanks very much,
Randy 
 
 

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    g_randybrown
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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/15 13:38:19 (permalink)
    23 views and no replies?
    So no one has seen this issue before?

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/15 13:42:51 (permalink)
    Check the VST folder paths.

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/15 14:28:57 (permalink)
    Thanks Craig,
    I didn't check every single one but the first five I checked were correct (appropriate dll in the folder path the plugin manager shows).
    Thanks again,
    Randy

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/15 15:14:33 (permalink)
    I just installed X3 and half my plug ins were missing, Seems it created it own new plug in folder. So all I did was use the plug in manager and add the old folders to the list of pathways. 
     

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/15 15:59:43 (permalink)
    Alex's advice to "reset and re-scan VST plug-ins" never hurts, and often solves these kinds of problems.

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/15 17:59:53 (permalink)
    I did the reset and tried a couple other things but it looks like the issue I was having with X2 is not going to be resolved by buying X3.
    X2 and X3 can see the Aria player (because I see it flash by on the scan and it shows up under the plugins column) but it won't show up in the default menu or any I create for some reason.
    I've uninstalled/reinstalled Aria, GPO and IO more times than I care to mention.
    I've taken it to the Garritan forum and Garritan support (never got an answer from them). 
     

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/15 20:31:27 (permalink)
    What do the plug-in properties show up as in plug-in manager? Is it maybe not configured as a synth? If you're only having problem with one plug-in, which has worked for me with Sonar, then there has to be some unique quality of that plug-in.
     
    In addition to resetting, did you also re-scan?

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/15 21:21:46 (permalink)
    Will the trial version recognise your existing plugins? I thought it would be a limitation of the trial.

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/16 15:31:26 (permalink)
     
    What do the plug-in properties show up as in plug-in manager? Is it maybe not configured as a synth?
    Yessir, configure as synth is checked and like I say it shows up in plugin manager and it shows up if I add it to a newly created custom layout but when I save and open the custom layout it's not there or anywhere in the default vst menu. 
     If you're only having problem with one plug-in, which has worked for me with Sonar, then there has to be some unique quality of that plug-in.
    It has worked for me too but has always been temperamental
     In addition to resetting, did you also re-scan?
    Yes and Sonar finds it every time.
    Thanks Craig,
    Randy
     

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/16 15:34:50 (permalink)
    mudgel
    Will the trial version recognise your existing plugins? I thought it would be a limitation of the trial.

    It has on several scans...according to where I downloaded it ( http://www.cakewalk.com/products/sonar/web-trial.aspx ) the trial is fully functional...but it also states it is a 30 day trial and I'm only getting 15 days so I dunno.
    That said, it does the same thing in X2.
    Thanks Michael,
    Randy
    EDIT: I don't know if this is relevant or not but in an existing project, if I double click any Aria instance it opens fine...it just doesn't show up in the layouts.
     
    post edited by g_randybrown - 2014/02/16 16:02:34

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/17 16:04:57 (permalink)
    Since this doesn't seem to be X3 specific I wonder if I should start a new thread with "Have any Aria users seen this" as the subject?
    I hate to be a pain but I really do need GPO and IO.
    EDIT: never mind that dumb question on 2nd thought I think it's obvious I should
    post edited by g_randybrown - 2014/02/17 16:16:04

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/18 17:55:12 (permalink)
    Did you install as the Administrator?  The first time I installed X3 I didn't do that even though it's clearly stated in the installation instructions :(  I uninstalled X3.  Before re-installing it, I opened X2 and many of the new vsts that came with X3 were greyed out. Even after re-installing X3, I had to re-isntall the plug-ins to get them all to work. I only re-installed the program initially becuase I as trying to avoid having to re-einstalled DimPro and Beatscape which take a long time...
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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/18 18:29:06 (permalink)
    Thanks Alex, this was doing this in X2 too...I only installed the trial X3 in hopes it would straighten out the issue.
    That said, I'm pretty sure I installed X2 as administrator but if I don't have an answer by tomorrow I'll uninstall/reinstall everything I suppose.
    BTW, I've started a more recent thread (Anyone using Aria player with Garritan products?) since this issue doesn't appear to be exclusive to X3. 
    post edited by g_randybrown - 2014/02/19 08:48:08

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    Re: synth rack in X3 2014/02/19 08:42:43 (permalink)
    Is it a plug in layout issue - are you sure your plugin layout is showing all of your available plug ins?

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