"the WEREWOLF song"

not as fine a recording as some of your recent efforts, but that's to be expected. what it is is a great tune, some cool guitar playing techniques in this, and your harmony vox are the icing on a tasty shred-cake...

You are damn good at what you do.  Vox and guitars, smokin'.  Nice production! - Daryl

Hey, Rob,



Very cool song!  Dynamite playing and great vocals, as always, and the new drums and guitars sound great.  The song definitely has a ton of raw energy going on and would fit right into the soundtrack of a werewolf movie.



Nice work, brother!
Bob

MGH
i'll take that as a complement!
LOL
yep, it's gotta be more raw, the original was super smooth, and it just didnt' sound right to me.
it still doesn't.... and i've since made a new mix of this, that i think is way more dialed in.
panned the guitars more centered (-20, +20) with all the backup vox, tom drums, sound effect guitars, all panned hard left and right.
re-eq'd the guitars a bit, to make them a bit more punchy, and went to a slap echo on the vox that is more present.
 
 
clean
thanks mark
 

daryl
thanks for the kind words.
it was a fun song to write, actually, it pretty much wrote itself.
  

zungle
appreciate the listens man....
for the record....only the 2 main rhythm guitar parts were recorded 'direct', everything else was miced off a cab.
i had to play REALLY REALLY loud, to get all the feedback parts to work.
i basically just stand close to the amp, and the notes take off by themselves.....
i just have to be smart about how i dampen everything i don't want to sound out.....
--tell you son i said "Thanks!"


bob
thanks man, i used my latest acquisition for the new rhythm guitars (a 1977 Ibanez Artist)
that's my most 'les paul'ish sounding axe, which works for this kind of sound.
 
 
markno999
thank you for listening and chiming in.....
you know, i really don't think this would work as a 'soundtrack', cuz it's basically telling the story....
but i think it'd be a great basis as 'instrumental only', because of all the feedback soundeffects i've got going on throughout.
the original had a lot more 'screaming' in it, done with the feedback on the guitar tracks.
i edited that all out for the singing version......

purple

thanks man.
heheh, i think i may leave this one up all year long!!
just to remind folks, it's time to see another good scary movie.

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Hard to say which I like better. Especially listening back to back. The  new version seems easier on the ears in a good way but still lacking some in your face. I think I like it raw. Awesome tune anyway. I think this is the third year I've heard it around this time. Thanks for breaking it out.

VENUS
thanks venus, appreciate that! i think i might have been a little werewolf as well, once upon a time....
 
now, for clarity, there is zero effects on the guitars, in the classic sense.
all of the guitar tracks have a simple guitar>>amp>>cabinet>>mic source sound.

i put a bit of reverb on a couple of guitars, just to make them less "direct" sounding....

now, there is a mix element going on, that involves multiple guitar tracks feeding back from the amplifier...
each track is a harmony, in feedback, and there are at least 5 at a time, and they are mixed in and out of the mix at various times....

it almost sounds like keyboard parts, but it's a simple loud guitar feeding back, multitracked.


and yes, it is quite a bit more sophisticated of a mix than meets the eye...
but the idea is to make the mix so smooth, that it is not noticable.

what i meant by RAW, was implying the SOUNDS were more raw.
the mix is pretty intense, with panning and volume envelopes on every track, including the drums.


appreciate the comments!!


rhynosynth
new version, easier on ears, yes, it's a combination of the mix eq on the individual tracks, and then the mastering application.
the first one has more midrange and cut (bite) and therefore sounds a bit more in the face.
also, it has a completely different panning scheme.
interesting how much little things can change things........and, how little these changes really effect the 'big picture'.
LOL

on the merry-go-round......


guitarhacker
thanks man, appreciate it.


seriousnoise
appreciate the kudos.

i DO check mixes on many soundsources along the way, it helps to hear it thru buds, and jamboxes, car stereo, home stereo....
this mix is so complicated, with all the guitar tracks creating the 'sound fx' as venus mentioned, you almost have to go about it like you're painting with sound.

if i run the mix with all the automation shut off, just faders up, it gets a bit cacaphonous!
LOL

thanks for listening