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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
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For some people it just downloaded automatically leading to articles like this: http://m.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29157217. ...some people are claiming the instructions still don't work. I can't comment as I don't own an apple device.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/12 19:01:40
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For some people it just downloaded automatically leading to articles like this:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29157217
. ...some people are claiming the instructions still don't work. I can't comment as I don't own an apple device.
The tone of the article would lead me to lend little credibility to the author - another frustrated blogger... Incidentally, I had a few friends wondering why it did NOT show up on their device, so I looked it up. The album will only downloaded itself if people had auto-download enabled. Some may still object, understandably, but considering how this has been blown out of proportion, the distinction is relevant. Otherwise, all that you get is an option to download the album, which is available on your cloud. As for people complaining that instructions won't work... I don't know - people complaining that something isn't working often tells you more about them than about the instructions. Obviously, if you delete something but leave auto-sync to the cloud enabled, it will redownload itself all the time. FWIW, the album WAS available on my laptop - which is hooked to the net 24/7 - but only if I wanted to download it. It was NOT on my iPhone. "The album was distributed to iTunes users via iCloud, which means it appears in the Music app on devices, but isn’t physically stored on the computer, phone or tablet until it has been downloaded. If it has been downloaded, users can swipe to the left on each song and click Delete. To hide the album from iTunes, users must log into their account, find the album and click the cross in the top left-hand corner of the cover image. The album may also appear if the phone has the auto-download feature enabled. To turn this off, go to Settings, iTunes & App Store, then disable Automatic Downloads."
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/12 19:07:50
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In the UK this album is now mainstream news as social media is going crazy. People can't seem to find a way to remove this apparent 'virus' from their Apple products. My Facebook wall is full of talk about U2. I think people aren't liking the idea of having music that they aren't choosing to listen to being forced down their throats... Apple might need to do a rethink...
The album is simply added to your purchased album list, so that you can download it if you want it. They don't like it, they simply don't download it. It doesn't download itself and it won't show up in your library unless you redeem it.
Except that one of the main "selling points" of the iTunes platform and iDevices is the ability to auto-download on every device you own any content you purchase. Buy an album on iTunes with your iPhone... it appears automatically on your iPad, iPod and computer. Yes, it's a setting you can turn on or off, but I have to say it is very useful. So when Apple added U2 to everyones purchased albums list it downloaded automatically to ... who knows how many people that didn't want it. I got it, I've not listened to it yet.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/12 19:10:44
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The tone of the article would lead me to lend little credibility to the author - another frustrated blogger...
I think the author apologised at the end of the article. And 'newsbeat' is aimed at younger audiences and is a spin off BBC's Radio 1 hence tacky writing style. There's probably loads of similar articles out there now.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/12 20:01:50
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I wonder if U2 is rethinking the album title. "Viral" would have been more accurate! LOL. 
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/12 20:27:03
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In the UK this album is now mainstream news as social media is going crazy. People can't seem to find a way to remove this apparent 'virus' from their Apple products. My Facebook wall is full of talk about U2. I think people aren't liking the idea of having music that they aren't choosing to listen to being forced down their throats... Apple might need to do a rethink...
The album is simply added to your purchased album list, so that you can download it if you want it. They don't like it, they simply don't download it. It doesn't download itself and it won't show up in your library unless you redeem it.
Except that one of the main "selling points" of the iTunes platform and iDevices is the ability to auto-download on every device you own any content you purchase.
Buy an album on iTunes with your iPhone... it appears automatically on your iPad, iPod and computer. Yes, it's a setting you can turn on or off, but I have to say it is very useful.
So when Apple added U2 to everyones purchased albums list it downloaded automatically to ... who knows how many people that didn't want it.
I got it, I've not listened to it yet.
I guess there are two possibilities. For me, as an owner a relatively large collection of iTunes albums, the last thing I want is to have everything I've ever bought effectively downloaded to all my devices, automatically. Actually, my iPhone doesn't have enough storage space for my album collection. Having the option to download my purchases, after careful selection, is a blessing though, and one of the advantages of the whole Apple environment paradigm. Honestly, if I was to automatically download absolutely every album that I bought, my iPhone would be filled with music I don't need or want to hear anymore - the U2 album would probably be one among hundreds of others. I wonder what percentage of users intentionally download all their media to every device they own. The word intentionally is crucial here because most of the people I've seen complaining didn't appear to be aware that they had the option. Though I admit that in a case such as you mention, yes, it can be annoying. That being said, it's not like Apple sneaked into one's house and went through their underwear drawer or placed thumbtacks on their toilet seat.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/12 21:29:45
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I think most people don't own more than 300 tracks nowadays. They either aren't that interested in music or use Spotify.
I don't do itunes or subscription services myself as I prefer to own rather than rent my music (I copy from CD to FLAC).
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/12 21:46:40
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I think most people don't own more than 300 tracks nowadays. They either aren't that interested in music or use Spotify.
I don't do itunes or subscription services myself as I prefer to own rather than rent my music (I copy from CD to FLAC).
If people rarely buy music and only own a small iTunes library, having auto download turned on or off makes little difference. Plus, it's not like people buy a new Apple device every day, so, following that logic, having auto-download enabled is of virtually no use. Not that I mean to argue against you personally, I know you're only voicing the other possibilities, but it depresses me to see people making such drama over something like that. Honestly, you'd be tempted to believe that Steve Jobs got out of the grave and sexually molested those people judging by the way they complain. I mean - they had to erase a free album from their iPod because they don't want to change their settings? Talk about a ****ty day man... I'm sure every homeless veteran in the US would feel sorry for them if they knew...
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/12 22:10:23
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Well people are very passionate about music! :)
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/13 15:37:41
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Well people are very passionate about music! :)
and U2.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/13 16:44:23
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Honestly, you'd be tempted to believe that Steve Jobs got out of the grave and sexually molested those people judging by the way they complain.
Typical apple fanboi statement right there . ;)
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Honestly, you'd be tempted to believe that Steve Jobs got out of the grave and sexually molested those people judging by the way they complain.
Typical apple fanboi statement right there . ;)
A real fanboi would also have to dig U2, no? ;)
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2014/09/13 18:05:05
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/13 18:38:55
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"U2's album spam PR stunt has destroyed decades of legacy quicker than hitting a delete button..."
That's great objective journalism right there... Next up - Yelp reviews. ;)
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/13 18:51:04
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Honestly, you'd be tempted to believe that Steve Jobs got out of the grave and sexually molested those people judging by the way they complain.
Typical apple fanboi statement right there . ;)
A real fanboi would also have to dig U2, no? ;)
No.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/13 19:00:10
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Honestly, you'd be tempted to believe that Steve Jobs got out of the grave and sexually molested those people judging by the way they complain.
Typical apple fanboi statement right there . ;)
A real fanboi would also have to dig U2, no? ;)
No.
Yes.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/13 19:04:21
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Honestly - all my U2 fan friends were happy to find the album available for free in their account. If U2 has a legacy, it depends on their fans and people who like their music, as far as I'm concerned.
But I guess that it would make for a less exciting article to write a blog about the millions of people who didn't fall into hysteria and simply didn't mind or were just happy to download the record. You wouldn't get as many clicks being rational or not making outrageous claims.
Especially not if you're writing for an online gossip web page with no other sort of content and no established legacy in the real world. Not that a magazine legacy matters - Rolling Stone magazine verbally destroyed and snubbed most of the biggest classics out there...
My wife - who hates U2 with a passion - was utterly annoyed to see it amongst her purchases. But I don't think U2's legacy is doing any worst for that.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/13 21:11:19
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Still I love the fact that people will not be dictated to however small and irrelevant it may be. Showbiz is easy wish bankers and policitians got the same stick...
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2014/09/14 03:45:34
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/14 05:29:47
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2014/09/14 14:57:23
With all due respect, the article linked above is anything but an album review... I'd sooner call it a communist manifest or the transcript of a trial than an album review. The article ends by him calling them guilty, doesn't it?
I've read Blake years ago FWIW. I get the reference. It's a reference. As in: tip of the hat. The album isn't a rewrite of Blake's work. It's inspired by the bands early days, when it all was new. So, Songs of Innocence.
I read through the article and I saw a bitter and very immature guy who's searching for a saviour who's pissed because Bono won't really save the world and he isn't perfect.
Sad, really...
I've listened to the album tonight, though not really carefully.
It managed to make me smile a few times. It isn't bad at all, imho.
There are some pretty awesome guitar tones on it as well.
At some point, I realized that the things that annoyed me did so because so many bands have copied those things from U2 in the last 20 years that I just can't stand them anymore.
As for the rest, as someone who's no big fan of them and who doesn't like Bono...
1 - Yes, they are rich, obscenely so. So what?
2 - Bono is not perfect. But then again, none of his critic is either.
3 - Most critics I've read have a messiah complex ten times as big as Bono. They're on a mission to save us from U2, and to enlighten us on everything from poetry to music to moral to economics. It's quite surprising how vast and all-encompassing is their expertise, really.
4 - U2 is 4 human beings - they do some nice things, they do some questionable one - like every one of us. I know of no one who's first thought upon getting a raise is "Man, I'll give all that extra money to charity!"
Being so negative and overly critic is easy and trendy.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/14 06:46:40
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They lost me after 'Boy' mainly 'cos I found Bono a bit embarrassing tbh, but credit where it's due..I can't think of any other band of that longevity that are still popular, and still have all original band members.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/14 21:36:44
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I just got back from ELO in Hyde Park London. Footage (coming soon) on iplayer if you can get access. That was a bloody great band, musicianship everywhere. I actually cried in happiness half way through the set, I can't remember that ever happening... The thing is it is still meaningful... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p026c48r
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/14 21:58:33
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Rain, I agree with you. Your words hit it spot on.
I just downloaded the album and am listening through ATH M-50's and they did a good job on this album. I was never a huge fan but I appreciate them. This album was not thrown together. It's great that it is free.
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/14 22:15:50
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I just got back from ELO in Hyde Park London.
Wow, was the traffic that bad? Yeah I know it's gone 3am, I'm working late...
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/15 09:37:43
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I walked home (about an hour walk)... And watched the footage... Which didn't record properly so back to iPlayer 'highlights'
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☄ Helpfulby lawp 2014/09/16 09:36:10
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☄ Helpfulby lawp 2014/09/16 09:36:04
I'm holding out for U3...
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2014/09/16 09:43:14
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I just got back from ELO in Hyde Park London. Footage (coming soon) on iplayer if you can get access. That was a bloody great band, musicianship everywhere. I actually cried in happiness half way through the set, I can't remember that ever happening... The thing is it is still meaningful...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p026c48r
http://thequietus.com/articles/16261-elo-live-review just for balance wrt the quietus ;-) :-) "in the best possible way, Like Punk Never Happened"
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Re: the new U2 album: do you have it yet?
2014/09/16 12:33:04
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I read a few reviews but that was the best one, I agree with everything written... Thanks for that...
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