the smart tool and midi sequencing.

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2011/04/11 23:09:01 (permalink)

the smart tool and midi sequencing.

Don't get me wrong, the smart tool brought major improvements to Sonar X1, but in on small but major way, it's been hindering my midi sequencing.

I usually sequence by mouse a lot, so wouldn't it be good if whenever your mouse isn't hovering about a midi note, it'd go into drawing mode?

I sequence drums a lot that way, I usually click to write a new note and then edit velocity with the velocity tails on the notes themselves, at least, that's the way I used to do it with Sonar 8.5 and earlier. Having to constantly toggle between smart tool and draw tool is quite annoying.
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    HumbleNoise
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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/11 23:31:03 (permalink)
    Try the alt key with the Smart Tool and draw any note anywhere (and edit velocity tails) or double click to enter notes.

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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/11 23:45:08 (permalink)
    I agree that overall the new system is slower than what 8.5 allowed.

    Hopefully the next release (X2 I presume) will have tool customization, similar to previous PRV tool customization. Would be nice to customize the draw tool to handle most functions similar to 8.5
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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/12 00:07:51 (permalink)
    luiza177


    Don't get me wrong, the smart tool brought major improvements to Sonar X1, but in on small but major way, it's been hindering my midi sequencing...


    That's OK, we're getting you Right, not wrong - You're wanting to not be critical of Sonar, but you can't help but be since the smart tool isn't working for you as well as the previous smart tool.  That's ok to say!-- HN gave you the answer--you have to combine the computer keyboard with a lot of Sonar routines now, whereas before you could work with one hand.

    Use Alt to add notes.  That's the new extra thing you have to do to the simpler one choice move you did before.

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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/12 11:56:25 (permalink)
    luiza177


    ... wouldn't it be good if whenever your mouse isn't hovering about a midi note, it'd go into drawing mode?
    ...


    That's a great idea ... I just submitted it as a Feature Request. I encourage anyone else who wants this to do the same and maybe we'll see it in the not too distant future.

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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/12 12:01:11 (permalink)
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    luiza177


    ... wouldn't it be good if whenever your mouse isn't hovering about a midi note, it'd go into drawing mode?
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    That's a great idea ... I just submitted it as a Feature Request. I encourage anyone else who wants this to do the same and maybe we'll see it in the not too distant future.


    I think the option to go into drawing mode would be nice. I play most of my MIDI data in via keyboard and then edit in the PRV so select is better for me. I do appreciate that it doesn't suit everyone though, so the option to customize would be nice rather than a complete change.
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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/12 12:17:36 (permalink)
    Use Alt to add notes. That's the new extra thing you have to do to the simpler one choice move you did before.

     
    Yeah, with the Smart Tool it's either ALT Click, or Double Click which gets really hard on the index finger.
    I'd love to see this become a single click as well.

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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/12 12:37:40 (permalink)
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    groovey1


    luiza177


    ... wouldn't it be good if whenever your mouse isn't hovering about a midi note, it'd go into drawing mode?
    ...


    That's a great idea ... I just submitted it as a Feature Request. I encourage anyone else who wants this to do the same and maybe we'll see it in the not too distant future.


    I think the option to go into drawing mode would be nice. I play most of my MIDI data in via keyboard and then edit in the PRV so select is better for me. I do appreciate that it doesn't suit everyone though, so the option to customize would be nice rather than a complete change.

    Hmmm ... yeah, I see what you mean ... this would get rid of the lasso-select which I also use a lot. Maybe I was too hasty. I guess we do need some kind of option.


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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/12 12:50:49 (permalink)
    The trouble is there's no one way that is going to suit everyone. Many users don't like modifiers either but if they are eliminated from the equation the number of functions per single tool becomes more limited.

    As it is the current smart tool is more or less exactly how I had my PRV 1 tool set up in earlier versions but appreciate I am not everyone. I think customisation is the answer. Brandon has indicated that this will come in future versions.

    I really like the way it's possible to just hold an F-key use a tool, let go and get back to where you started. I use that with F5 very often while I'm using the mute tool for comping.
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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/12 13:23:05 (permalink)
    FastBikerBoy


    ...

    I really like the way it's possible to just hold an F-key use a tool, let go and get back to where you started. I use that with F5 very often while I'm using the mute tool for comping.

    I didn't know that ... thanks for the tip! I find that just about the only time I have to switch away from the smart tool is for muting.

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    Re:the smart tool and midi sequencing. 2011/04/12 16:39:02 (permalink)
    groovey1

    I find that just about the only time I have to switch away from the smart tool is for muting.
    Same here.



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