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2009/09/30 10:16:57 (permalink)

timing

Hey, i  was just wondering how you go about fitting everything together like the percussion, i seem to spend hour trying to get everything in time and i was just wondering if you guys spend alot of time doing this or if you have found easiar ways of doing this.
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    Re:timing 2009/09/30 10:50:09 (permalink)
    I probably have a different way of constructing percussion tracks to most folks, because i don't really construct them, i de-construct them.  No, actually, it's probably about half and half to be strictly accurate. 

    What i do is randomly hit the notes on the keyboard untill the bar or however long i want to record is up and then i just use the notes i think sound good. I will make adjustments here and there to make things fit and i'll quantize it 100% so notes will naturally begin to fit into the timing of the track. 

    Then i'll try various sounds and i'll detune the track sometimes to make sure i'm using the sounds i want to.  I'd say that at least 50% of my percussion tracks involve selection and judgement rather than painstaiking construction. 

    I also use multiple percusion tracks to create layers, sometimes using the same pattern, but detuned or shifted or even edited if i'm feeling adventurous. 

    As i understand it, this is the complete opposite to how Sean creates his drum tracks. He enters his notes one by one, but i just would'nt have the patience for that cause i'm a lazy sod.  

    I've always used this method from day one of using P5 and it seems to have served me well thus far so i expect i'll carry on using it.  I think my method helps me create patterns i would'ny ordinarily have thought of myself or anyone else for that matter. 
     
    I don't know if i've described that very well, but i think it gives the general idea.  
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    Re:timing 2009/09/30 11:45:26 (permalink)
    wow thats a really interesting and creative approach, sounds far more fun that what im doing, and you explained it prefectly well, I might try your way out, but it seems a bit too random for me, too care free, i feel like i would just make a mess of noise you would nt be able to find a rhythm, its the complete opposite of what im  doing four to the floor, nothing can be out or just sounds off, i dont know how people cope who do more complicated drum structures, it would take days. I guess once you have been doing it awhile it will become second nature.
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    Re:timing 2009/09/30 12:19:19 (permalink)
    Yeah sometimes it can lead to nothing and you have to do it again untill you get something that works with that particular track.   I've got my method down to a fine art now as i've been using it for nearly five years so drum tracks are usually the least of my worries now.

     This method won't suit everyone, maybe no one else but me, but it's second nature to me now.

    When you're doing four to the floor stuff you are more restricted, but with IDM practically anything goes and the rules are pretty much non existent which is one of the reasons i like it.
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    Re:timing 2009/09/30 15:06:28 (permalink)
    ye, i like your kind of drums, the reason im doing four to the floor is cause i have never programmed drums before, and was finding it a little stressful and was nt enjoying making music as much but maybe i need to just get a bit freer and experiment a bit and try that, i am enjoying what im doing but i like other kinds of styles aswel, so maybe your technique might be a good place to start.
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