Is Perfect Space The Only One

I'm under the impression that the pan is last in line before the fadar (unless you have a POST fadar send) and what ever is going thru that channel will be panned, whether it is set for an effect, sub group, idividual track, etc.

In another thread about convolution reverbs, it is discussed that some, like Pristine Space, Altiverb, etc are true stereo reverbs UNLIKE Perfect space , but I am getting out of my comfort level in knowledgably talking about them.

Panning the reverb rather than the input is actually a rarely-used feature in the real world, because real-world reverberation doesn't pan. Reflections don't move unless the walls they're reflecting off of move. If the source (input) moves, the reflections still don't move, only their relative strengths.

But then I tend to treat reverb as an emulation of the real world, something of course you are not required to do! After all, it's a virtual world and you are free to change the rules.

Any reverb can be panned any way you like. Just put the reverb on a bus 100% wet and add a pan envelope.

However, on a stereo bus (note that the output of a stereo reverb is always going to be stereo, even on a mono track) you may want a true stereo pan, which a pan envelope will not provide. S8's Channel Tools plugin does, and you can automate its left and right angle settings. Unfortunately, you're at 7, so the Channel Tools plugin is not available to you. The free Stereoid Bouncer plugin will do until you upgrade SONAR.

and the part about the "true stereo pan" is another subject... (albeit much talked about too in the past).

I think panning a direct source, REALISTICALLY, the wet reverb sound should change too, even though it still comes out the left/right sides. Something a "true stereo pan" cannot do, as the audio information should be changing instead of intensities or volumes or panoramic placements.

If I was to add reverb sends to a track, lets say a lead vocal track.
And that lead vocal track was going to a Bus that had a compressor.

Question 1
Does that mean that since the Send is on the "Track" (and not the bus its being sent to)
that the actual reverb being sent on that track is going to be getting compressed too??(compressed by bus compressor)
Kind of like compressing a Reverbed Vocal?? (That is not what Im after of course)

Question 2
After insuring that the Direct Signal(where applicable) is disabled
Some reverbs automatically sum to mono and create
the stereo effect from within(does not follow Bus/Track pan, remains stationary/static)

Some are stereo in and out(which allow panning of the wet signal, or allow reverb send pan to actually follow
the bus/track pan)

Some are True Stereo(which I still have to do some research on)

Is this thinking correct??
It is what my tests are showing/gathering, but is what I have typed, a way to put it.

post edited by nicksoldier - 2009/04/27 04:12:34

If I was to add reverb sends to a track, lets say a lead vocal track.
And that lead vocal track was going to a Bus that had a compressor.

In this scenario, the signal being sent to the reverb bus is independent of what's going to the compressed bus. The reverb would not be compressed.

Now, I know that nothing can replace "TRUE AIR" in a track but sometimes (for creativity reasons) I do hear Room Mics and/or Overhead Mics NOT IN STEREO and NOT PANNED in the center.

For example, this can make a snare drum track come alive when the direct (more dry) and the overhead mic and panned opposite in a mix. This works real well and almost sounds like a doubled snare drum because of the delay of the sound reaching the two mics is more apparent when they do not share the same space in a mix.

Now, I do agree with Bits that this does not happen naturally but this can do some magic in a mix.