Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit

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2013/02/24 13:47:20 (permalink)

Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit

Upgraded to Waves Gold 9.2.0 today, but only the 32-bit version of the plugin appear, though I scan both the 32- and 64-bit folder.  Anyone?

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    chuckebaby
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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/24 15:17:57 (permalink)
    did you check to make sure they are in the 64 bit vst plugins folder?
    or that your plug in manager is scanning that folder?

    i would look right there first.

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/24 15:25:43 (permalink)
    On my system it appeared that Sonar was seeing the 32 bit Waves rather than the 64 bit Waves with them both installed.

    Once I eliminated the 32 bit, the 64 bit seems to have shown up.

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/24 15:27:43 (permalink)
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    On my system it appeared that Sonar was seeing the 32 bit Waves rather than the 64 bit Waves with them both installed.

    Once I eliminated the 32 bit, the 64 bit seems to have shown up.


    Same here.

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/24 15:48:08 (permalink)
    might need to set vstpluginnameformat to 2 in the initialization file then rescan vsts.

     
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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/25 03:42:07 (permalink)
    Try moving the 32-bit plug-ins out of where they are, then re-scan. Sonar should "see" the 64-bit versions and lock into those. Then try putting the 32-bit plug-ins back for your non-64-bit programs, and I think Sonar will still stick with the 64-bit versions.
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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/25 07:25:15 (permalink)
    Hmmm...I have been having this exact issue ans will give the suggestion a try as well...thanks!

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/25 07:30:30 (permalink)
    I have them both installed and no problems whatsoever....

    Just make sure you have both paths for the Waveshells in
    your plugin manager.

    I usually exclude the 32 Bit VST's in the plugin manager so
    I don't accidentally use them.  Only the VSTs that are only
    32 bit do I leave on the list...


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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/25 11:05:05 (permalink)
    I also just delete the waveshell in the 32 bit folder.

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/25 15:28:58 (permalink)
    Thanx guys.

    I've uninstalled waves, but the 32 bit plugin remains. When I try to exclude them I get a message that the Wave-shell 9.2.dll directory no longer exists (true enough) and asks me if I want to remove the plugin from the registry.

    I do, but after confirming, the 32-bit plugins pop back in the registered plug-in window in plug-in manager. I'm stuck.

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/25 16:00:36 (permalink)
    I found that moving (after install) the two waveshell dlls to separate folders (in my case I use C:\Program Files\Vstplugins\Waves and C:\Program Files(x86)\Vstplugins\Waves).


    That way 32bit SONAR is looking in one place and 64bit SONAR is looking to another place.
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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/25 19:50:30 (permalink)
    I would do a clean install. What I did was uninstall all the waves plugs. Manually deleted all Waves folders and deleted all the waveshell entries in the registry then reinstalled everything again.
     
    The reg key is Hkey_current_user\software\cakewalk music software\sonar producer\cakewalk vst\inventory.
     
    remove everything waveshell.

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/26 10:54:13 (permalink)
    Mosvalve


    I would do a clean install. What I did was uninstall all the waves plugs. Manually deleted all Waves folders and deleted all the waveshell entries in the registry then reinstalled everything again.
     
    The reg key is Hkey_current_user\software\cakewalk music software\sonar producer\cakewalk vst\inventory.
     
    remove everything waveshell.

    +1. This is a known issue between Waves and Cakewalk where the Waves install doesn't always work every time. I believe this is mostly a Waves issue, but Sonar has this uncanny desire to hold specific versions hostage. I had issues just going from V9.0.0 to 9.1.2. It was a disaster with Sonar. 

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/26 11:07:25 (permalink)
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    I found that moving (after install) the two waveshell dlls to separate folders (in my case I use C:\Program Files\Vstplugins\Waves and C:\Program Files(x86)\Vstplugins\Waves).


    That way 32bit SONAR is looking in one place and 64bit SONAR is looking to another place.

    Ya.

    Also a Ya to Mosvalve. Sometimes uninstalling still leaves reg.keys.
    I didn't uninstall waves I just deleted the waveshell from the 32 bit vst folder and that worked for me.

    I hate the way all windows PC's behave differently. Even if we had all the same equipment, plugs, software and settings.
    One will run perfect and one will be all screwed up.

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/26 11:23:11 (permalink)
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    bapu


    I found that moving (after install) the two waveshell dlls to separate folders (in my case I use C:\Program Files\Vstplugins\Waves and C:\Program Files(x86)\Vstplugins\Waves).


    That way 32bit SONAR is looking in one place and 64bit SONAR is looking to another place.

    Ya.

    Also a Ya to Mosvalve. Sometimes uninstalling still leaves reg.keys.
    I didn't uninstall waves I just deleted the waveshell from the 32 bit vst folder and that worked for me.

    I hate the way all windows PC's behave differently. Even if we had all the same equipment, plugs, software and settings.
    One will run perfect and one will be all screwed up.

    Mike


    That's why you have to manually remove all waveshells from the registry. I also had issue where after installing Waves plugins they weren't written in the registry. There are a couple more Waves plugs I want but am hesitant because I will have to uninstal everything and reinstall just for one plug even. I have not found any other way that works. Waves support like to blame Cakewalk but Cakewalk doesn't have anything to do with Waves not writting to the registry.

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/26 12:03:25 (permalink)
      I was having a hell of a time when I upgraded from version 8. The version 8 bundle was still showing up in the Plug in manager and on my layouts even though I deleted everything that had to do with it. Finally heard about this trick and low and behold in the reg was all of these Waves version 8 effects. Deleted them all and finally they are gone and all I have are version 9.2 64bit waves plugins. Also the plugin limit warning has gone away. All is good!
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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/27 12:59:44 (permalink)
    I would do a clean install. What I did was uninstall all the waves plugs. Manually deleted all Waves folders and deleted all the waveshell entries in the registry then reinstalled everything again.

    The reg key is Hkey_current_user\software\cakewalk music software\sonar producer\cakewalk vst\inventory.

    remove everything waveshell.
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    Thanks - don't know to much about the registry, but can't get this reg key to work on my computer, maybe since I have a norwegian version of win 7 installed. 

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/27 18:35:35 (permalink)
    trallala


    I would do a clean install. What I did was uninstall all the waves plugs. Manually deleted all Waves folders and deleted all the waveshell entries in the registry then reinstalled everything again.

    The reg key is Hkey_current_user\software\cakewalk music software\sonar producer\cakewalk vst\inventory.

    remove everything waveshell.
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    Thanks - don't know to much about the registry, but can't get this reg key to work on my computer, maybe since I have a norwegian version of win 7 installed. 


    You will want to be careful with the registry. Not sure why your version of windows registry would be different than english or any other version. If you click on Start then type regedit in the search section the registry should open in it's own window. From there navigate to this key. If you can contact Waves they will take control of your pc and do it. If your not comfortable editing the registry do try it.

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/02/28 12:12:40 (permalink)
    The registry is just plain evil.  A bad idea that has gotten out of control, through use, abuse and misuse by developers, by Microsoft, by users, by third party tools and it's amazing to me that we still have to deal with it.

    That being said, I would follow Mr. Anderton's advice first (post #6 above) before attempting anything with the registry.  But if you do have to venture into deleting stuff from the registry then make a backup of it first.





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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/03/04 14:19:08 (permalink)
    :) Hi guys - and thanx. Finally got the plugs up and running. Figured out the registry at the end, but had a difficult time reinstalling the bundle. 

    Anyway - I'm back. Thanx again. :)

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    Re:Waves 9 upgrade - still 32-bit 2013/03/04 14:41:04 (permalink)
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    The registry is just plain evil.  A bad idea that has gotten out of control, through use, abuse and misuse by developers, by Microsoft, by users, by third party tools and it's amazing to me that we still have to deal with it.

    That being said, I would follow Mr. Anderton's advice first (post #6 above) before attempting anything with the registry.  But if you do have to venture into deleting stuff from the registry then make a backup of it first.

    As blasphemous as this may sound, I think the concept of a registry was a good idea when it was invented, but in Microsoft's case horribly and wrongfully implemented. It once had potential but now it's just a big mess of garbage your system doesn't need.

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