Reverb tails

I'm sure I'm not alone in noticing that many times when you press PLAY in Sonar the very first thing you hear is a reverb tail from a reverb plug you were using when you last hit the STOP button.

What I happened to notice the other day was that these reverb tails can appear at the start of an exported mix to .wav file. I usually start a project on measure 9 so the final exported mix has a big blank space that I get rid of in Soundforge. But at the beginning of that space is a reverb tail.

It doesn't bother me because I edit it out but I was thinking that if I started on measure 1 it's probably there in the mix too, albeit quietly superinposed on whatever the first beat of the piece is.

Just curious if any one else has noticed this phenomenon.


Oli

ORIGINAL: Jim Roseberry

What you're decribing is typically the result of an audio card not flushing its buffers. IOW, When you re-engage the tranport, you're hearing what was in its buffer when you stopped the time before.

Your audio card manufacturer would need to address this in their driver.

I'm having that problem on my Lynx Two card with the ASIO driver, do you think there is a setting in the driver or Sonar that I can set to force the buffer to flush ?

By the way, the first answer that AL gave seemed to fix the problem.

ORIGINAL: OffAnAirplane
This is definitely not a new problem, and it's a glitch with sonar, not with your soundcard.
Check out this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=389341&mpage=1&key=񢍐

FWIW, I've used/tested a *LOT* of PC audio hardware/software.
It's definitely *not* simply a Sonar issue.
Sonar doesn't do this with M-Audio, Emu, RME, etc. audio cards.
Back in the early days of PC DAWs, this was a much more common issue...
And it was the result of the audio card not flushing its buffer.

IMO it's plug dependant.

It's the plug not responding to one or more messages.

Only the plug writer can fix this.

a.

ORIGINAL: SonarForum

IMO it's plug dependant.

It's the plug not responding to one or more messages.

Only the plug writer can fix this.

a.

That could be it, I've got some moldy versions of some plugins and that seems to be the ones that do it. It may also have to do with how many instences of the same plugin are in the project. It seems to happen more on projects with a bunch of the same reaverb plugin but not on ones with only two or three. Maybe the plugin can stop a number of them but not all over some number. hum...

ORIGINAL: SonarForum

Only the plug writer can fix this.

a.

If Cakewalk considered this something worth addressing they could probably come up with a "hack."

A user option, something like: "On Stop, Send Zeros to All Plug-ins."

If the user selects this, Sonar could send a moment of zeros to FX bin plugs.

a.

ORIGINAL: daverich

Just select "play effect tails" in the audio options.

Then usually any tails are played out before you play the project or export the project again.

Kind regards

Dave Rich

Well, sure, you could do that...

Hey, you interested in my other invention?

It rolls ;-)

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