sonar in the uk

Yes, Sonar is the cool one.

But, there are many recording programs like Protools, Garage Band, etc.

I think I've seen some recent post that said Cakewalk was bought up by Roland, so hopefully Roland will create more cool sounds and hardwate to be used with Sonar.

Cakewalk was bought up by Roland

Well, more like the two have entered into a more "robust" (on Roland's side ) relationship...at least that's the party line.

@ the OP - There are loads of UK users on this forum that have stated similar things, but hopefully SONAR is inching their way (well, centimetring their way for you, I suppose) into the European (and beyond) marketplace.

@ the UK users - Color, color, color, color, color, color, color!!!

James, there are a fair few UK users here.. so it's not so bad

some people on here have used it for a long time and are very knowledgeable . So if you run into difficulties you can ask here, but the book Scott wrote is very good in addition to the manual.

Someone did bring up that point in CM a few months back. Yep it has to do with the % of each products of their readers. I only became a sonar user after winning cakewalk pro from a CM comp. I was very surprised, as I never win anything. I like different aspects of each thing I use, reason , sonar, cubase.

Did you ever see the review of sonar 7 in CM? it got a good result, as well it was slightly cheaper and compared to other things you got a lot more. I'm sure having z3ta included helped heaps also. Although if you look a the prices at say DV... cakewalk pro is cheaper than the stand alone 7PE... and your getting DP + Rapture + project 5 on top of that as well. £250 if you can get the b-stock version of £299 if it's the brand new one. The others aren't as cheap or if they are about the same price, come with far less.

the things they show, you can apply to each sequencer without a load of difficultly, was the answer they gave in the mag.

It's partly to do with cakewalk being not based in the UK or Europe I guess. For us, to contact them is normally email only. Although I wish they would set up a secret msn or skype number registered people could use that aren't US based. Phoning them is not really an option cost wise and well a lot of us use 2 pc's .. so using that method would be pretty straight forward.

I've bought music tech a few times, I don't rate it and found the disk content misleading in the sense of say for reason stuff "2 gb of samples" YES... but same thing x2 ..eg.. a 16 bit + 24 bit version of the same thing.

For me Future music is a bit high-end expensive gear, so I buy it rarely.

have you bought the sonar power book? that will show you a lot of things, but may be if your going to upgrade to 8, there might be a new version of that coming out in hhmm I dunno when? (I can't speak for Scott)

http://www.find-dvd.co.uk/bookPrices.aspx?book=1598634429

will show u the cheapest price.. £2 cheaper than I bought it.

for all the sonar 8 conspiracy crew , this is interesting and the release date >
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1598638211/findhotelinth-21

OP: Check out Sound on Sound as suggested by ChrisByrd

Jinga8: Sorry but you seem to have missed a "U" or two from your spelling of Colour

I regularly read Sound on Sound, Computer Music and Music Tech mags. Each one is useful for something.

Sound on Sound is aimed at higher end users, however many of the articles can apply to any user. Its by far the "heaviest" read. It always contains a lot of good information, and its reviews are very informative.

Computer Music is more geared to the home musician it shows a lot to do with techniques for particular music composition. Its also a great resource and champion for many of the freeware plugins. Its still amazing that you can get a DAW up and running with just the CM disc and its also fairly well stocked with plugins. Comes with a lot of samples every month, these can be useful, if you have a need for them.

Music Tech, seems to try to stradle both the pro user and the serious amateur. It frequently has reviews of pro end gear, like £1000+ microphones for example. The tutorials are perhaps a bit more geared to the mixing side of things with more tutorials leaning towards recording techniques, rather than compositional techniques (like in CM). Its perhaps the least popular of the three, but I actually like it, in that although it contains less content (usually) than the other two, it also provides some good insights into mixing techniques that are bit more geared towards someone like me.

As I said each one has its own merits, and a lot of them depend on what you do. To speak generically, I would say that CM is geared towards the home musician, Sound on Sound more to the professional side of the market, and Music Tech to someone running a Home Studio. Of course thats very generic, so dont be surprised if someone has a different take on this.

ORIGINAL: jinga8

@ the UK users - Color, color, color, color, color, color, color!!!

No need to shot so lod...

I agree Sond on Sond (or here) is prolly the best bet.

I dumped Cubase for Sonar 18 months ago and never looked back.

If Logic had not gone to Mac,I would have stayed there but you know where you are with Sonar.

Also,out of all the forums dedicated to ANY sequencer,Sonar wins hands down,no contest.

You will get straight answers and no bull here,as they say,it's a no brainer.

Alan

ORIGINAL: John

Sonar in the UK, please don't mind the funny accent.

as for accents in films ..hhmm

dick van dyke's... -11000000000000000
Renée Zellweger +100

Alan, a lot were the same and a few that I know that were always fans of apple REALLY hate the new logic and how it's changed. One is even thinking of switching to PC, if I had said that to one of them 2 or 3 years ago he would have laughed at me. He would only keep the mac for final cut pro.

ORIGINAL: jinga8

SONAR is inching their way (well, centimetring their way for you, I suppose)

Excuse me but we do inches here and lots of other lovely imperial measures too including a compact and elegant gallon. Rewrite history, spell colour how you like, annihilate the "H" from "Herb" but don't foist the centimetre on our proud island nation. That's the job of Brussels.

Halfway seriously, though, to the OP: two contributors to this thread from Guildford must mean that Sonar is not a poor relation to other DAWs.

Laurence

You blokes have me rolling on the floor. Cheers from the new world to you all.

Trade magazine articles usually only cover advanced stuff.

http://www.eqmag.com/

http://mixonline.com/

Hey anothe UK user here Londonite.

Check out the tracks inmy signature their from my bands EP and were recorded edited and mixed in Sonar, bless it. I moved over 2 years ago from Cubase and have never looked back.

I have to say Sound on Sound have always reviewed SOnar and given it some very objective reviews, it was probably the review of 5 that first got me interested, I then ummed and arred, but Audiosnap in 6 persuaded me to jump ship, and I am glad I did, it was worth it jsut for AS. Its now an integral part of how I work.

G

Another UK user here.

I only bought my first DAW last summer, after doing several weeks/months of research decided on SONAR - not least because of the lure of this forum!

As for the Imperial/Metric debate - I find it totally amazing how you buy and spec timber in the UK.

I wanted some wood for something I was building, went into the local timber yard and asked for 12 feet of 2 x 2

"Oh" they said - "we've gone metric now, you'll have to convert"

So I sat down and worked it out, and said "Ok, I'll have 3.5 metres of 50mm x 50mm"

They laughed and said, "No, what you want is 12 feet of 50mm x 50mm <doh>

Metric in 2 of the dimensions, imperial in the other.

No wonder most of us have an identity crisis.

You can buy all the back issues on DVD and the price of that would be worth it just for the Sonar articles, I would think.

Worth checking out their web site as well at www.soundonsound.com. Type Sonar into the Quick Search box and you'll get reviews back to the first release of Sonar in 2001, plus Craig Anderton's notes, etc. I think if you're not a subscriber you can only view stuff older than 6 months though.

And yes, Sonar 7 Power! is an essential read, though I've found you do have to read it fairly closely (rather than skim through it) to get the most out of it.

Chris

other than I guess the French think the Belgians are a bunch of euro-rubes.

I'm surprised they did not revert to Polish accent.

I have a Greek friend (came stateside in 1974). When I asked him what do they say in Greece, like we do in America: "It's all Greek to me". He said they say: "It's all Chinese to me".