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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/17 03:10:15
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/17 08:46:03
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great stuff, just installed it!!!! At last my Kick Ass Brass will work in Sonar 64 
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/17 10:09:49
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Looks promising, thanks for the heads up, will check it out.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/17 10:57:47
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I heard about this. It would be great to run 32 bit virtual instryments like kontakt player 2 and not have the 4 gig limit.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/17 11:18:40
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Another jbridge fan here. It has allowed me to use MIDI Out from Jamstix and to run Tassman, both of which couldn't be done with BitBridge. The only thing I've tried to do with it that hasn't worked is to use MIDI Out from Session Drummer. And the guy who wrote the program provides an incredible level of service considering that it only costs five euros. I've already had three updates, and several quick e-mail responses (as in same day) to questions. I told him that Cakewalk should be talking to him about bridging software. He said he had approached them, but had no reply so far.
post edited by vanceen - 2009/06/17 11:29:46
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/17 11:25:40
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I really hope cakewalk buys this. I like sonar a lot but wish they geared the product more towards tv/film composers. I don't care for light version of included vsti or plug-ins. And I know they won't add every feature we demand because they worry we wont buy the next upgrade if we have a DAW that has everything we need.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/17 11:32:00
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Alex - Get your cheque book out now!
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timboe
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 00:08:51
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" ..... I told him that Cakewalk should be talking to him about bridging software. He said he had approached them, but had no reply so far....... "
Given that bitbridge is virtually unuseable on anything other than very small / very high latency projects and how glitchy / flaky it makes any project it is in, this seems to me to be a total no-brainer.
Factor in that all DAW software being X64 compliant is still not here [yet] and that the per-unit cost this might add to Sonar may be in the order of a dollar or two ...... this is such a slam-dunk, I'd be amazed if it wasnt puirsued.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 10:17:48
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considering that it only costs five euros.
What?!?? I paid 15€!!! Still worth it though :D
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vanceen
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 12:24:52
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considering that it only costs five euros.
What?!?? I paid 15€!!!
Still worth it though :D
Hmm.. Maybe I got that wrong. I thought I paid €5, but the web site says €14.99. At any rate, you're right, it's well worth it.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 13:02:39
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It's really neat, but I think it needs some work to be integrated in a professional DAW:
- Single window, rather than the two that are used now, with JBridge options available through the plug-in's top menu
- Tidy up the text on the window to make it more "pro" (some of this might not be needed if the above is done)
- Fix the problem with plug-in GUI windows being slightly too small
- Get rid of the requirement to renaming/copying of dll's in some way - it's kludgy and prone to user error
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 13:24:46
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So is this worth a blind purchase? My Sonar setup in Vista 64 works *pretty* good, I can definitely complete a project, but more stability would definitely be a bonus.
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vanceen
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 14:16:50
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ORIGINAL: Arglebargle
So is this worth a blind purchase? My Sonar setup in Vista 64 works *pretty* good, I can definitely complete a project, but more stability would definitely be a bonus.
Jbridge won't help your stability unless your stability problems are caused by 32-bit VST's that BitBridge doesn't handle well.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 14:25:36
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Has anyone tried this out with trilogy from spectrasonics and EzPlayer by toontrack? Also , shot in the dark but anyone successfully used this with the DS864 sampler from P5? Cheers 
post edited by hairyjamie - 2009/06/18 14:36:19
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Arglebargle
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 14:30:19
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ORIGINAL: vanceen
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So is this worth a blind purchase? My Sonar setup in Vista 64 works *pretty* good, I can definitely complete a project, but more stability would definitely be a bonus.
Jbridge won't help your stability unless your stability problems are caused by 32-bit VST's that BitBridge doesn't handle well.
The most common problem I get is "page fault in nonpaged area" bluescreen. I actually get that quite a bit, though not enough to make it Vista a deal breaker for me. Frankly I have NO idea what is causing that.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 14:35:10
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ORIGINAL: Arglebargle
The most common problem I get is "page fault in nonpaged area" bluescreen. I actually get that quite a bit, though not enough to make it Vista a deal breaker for me. Frankly I have NO idea what is causing that.
This sounds like a hardware driver error or hardware conflict to me - does your bleuscreen identify the device thats causing the pagefault? It should something.SYS.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 16:11:07
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ORIGINAL: Arglebargle
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ORIGINAL: Arglebargle
So is this worth a blind purchase? My Sonar setup in Vista 64 works *pretty* good, I can definitely complete a project, but more stability would definitely be a bonus.
Jbridge won't help your stability unless your stability problems are caused by 32-bit VST's that BitBridge doesn't handle well.
The most common problem I get is "page fault in nonpaged area" bluescreen. I actually get that quite a bit, though not enough to make it Vista a deal breaker for me. Frankly I have NO idea what is causing that.
Like hj said above, that doesn't sound like a BitBridge problem. Those usually result in a hang when scanning the VST plugins folder, or a "Teleport Service Has Stopped" message. A BSOD sounds like a hardware problem, or perhaps a driver.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/18 16:18:42
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Like hj said above, that doesn't sound like a BitBridge problem. Those usually result in a hang when scanning the VST plugins folder, or a "Teleport Service Has Stopped" message.
A BSOD sounds like a hardware problem, or perhaps a driver.
Okay, okay. I think I might have gotten those errors once or twice, but that's it.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/19 07:30:35
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ORIGINAL: Arglebargle
ORIGINAL: vanceen
Like hj said above, that doesn't sound like a BitBridge problem. Those usually result in a hang when scanning the VST plugins folder, or a "Teleport Service Has Stopped" message.
A BSOD sounds like a hardware problem, or perhaps a driver.
Okay, okay. I think I might have gotten those errors once or twice, but that's it.
I still very occassionaly get BSODS on my (almost) stable system, when there's a lot going on. Loads of HD activity, loading a massive sample into an equally bloated VST etc. etc.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/06/19 09:55:29
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If the vst scan fails to respond or halts in Vista-64bit, can one assume that the hang is caused by bitbridge, and that this jbridge product will solve the halt? I'm having this hang problem with the ProteusX2 vsti. I understand that EMU does not support Proteus under Vista, but I don't want to have to go back to 32bit. I hate to spend more money trying to get Proteus to work, but if jbridge will let it scan and appear as a vsti in Sonar 64bit, I'm willing. Anyone else tried jbridge with Proteus?
Thanks,
Dan
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/07/14 00:52:13
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We need to give jbridge some time to develop..but this is definitely the successor to bitbridge...I hope it will be included in Sonar 9 or in 8.5....but jbridge still need to fix the bugs and the stability problems first.
However jbridge is still way better when it comes to compatibility almost every plugin I have tried will work...unlike with bitbridge there many plugins still will cause Sonar to totally crash...
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/07/14 00:59:35
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Wow this is really neat. Sound very cool and hopefully Cakewalk can work it out to include it into Sonar in the near future.
Good find!
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/07/14 06:31:21
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Doesn't work with iLok protected products yet.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/07/14 07:41:41
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Hi, folks. I am the developer of jBridge. Regarding iLok protected products, they'll probably never work ( and I can't offer support for that, as you may understand ), since their protection mechanisms seem to prevent them from being bridged. However, some users have reported that they were able to run Altiverb6 (which uses a dongle) by disabling the "use auxhost thread safety measures" option. I can't confirm that. Regarding any other problems you may encounter, feel free to drop me a line, I am committed to make this work as well as possible. 
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/07/14 08:21:14
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hi johnny, welcome to the Sonar forum. iLok doesn't present a problem to Bitbridge, but the FX Teleport engine does things differently to Jbridge. Have you had any luck speaking to the Pace people or are they just ignoring you? I tried disabling the "use auxhost thread safety measures" by setting the parameter to zero in the auxhost_default_settings.txt file but that didn't help the ilok plugs. They crash on scanning, so you don't get the chance to run the auxhost config util. But the default is zero anyway, right? Kick Ass Brass works!
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/07/14 09:01:58
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Hi, Paul.
I haven't made any contact with the Pace guys, but I can try. Yes, the default for that option, since v1.02 (iirc), is disabled. To make sure it's using the auxhost default settings, go to the plugins's folder (where the real plugin is), and if there's a file with the extension .jBridge inside, delete it ( that file is created for each plugin if you change any of the default settings for it ).
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/07/14 09:13:05
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Awesome. Thanks for this thread... lots of cool developments in this arena going on!
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/07/14 13:20:14
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Can't make jbridge work with Superior Drummer 2, EzPlayer Pro or Jamstix 2 on SONAR 8.3.1, VISTA Ultimate 64, 6GIG RAM Intel i7 920.
need to experiment more but not much time lately.
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RE: ATTN: Cakewalk ...... JBridge ..... Sonar 9 ?
2009/07/14 15:59:29
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Hum, I have received a few reports about Jamstix2 and Sonar, but I can run a "jbridged" Jamstix2 in Sonar 8.3.1 here (I am using Windows 7, though). Could you specify what happens exactly? Thanks.
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