DaveA
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Why is UK pricing so high?
Hi all,
I got quite enthused at the prospect of the 8.5 upgrade when it was advertised at $99. At present exchange rates that equates to about £60. I was suprised to see that I have to pay £89 for the basic upgrade - a mark-up of about 50% over and above the USD price. As I regularly make USD payments by credit card to US companies for downloadable material without penalty I wondered if there is any particular reason that us poor limeys are getting stung in this regard?
The Elite Reverb Edition would cost me about $88 more than a US based customer pays - doesn't seem quite right : (
Dave
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strikinglyhandsome1
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 06:58:22
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It's been discussed at length many times. Here's a recent one To sum up. We have to pay taxes and the like. This is still well short of the actual total. The rest is because we have to subsidise other countries - like America - and also to pay for Cakewalk employees second homes in exotic locations. The War of Independence was over something very similar.
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 07:03:09
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The War of Independence was over something very similar.
mmm, fancy a cup of tea anyone? I'm quite near Boston so we could go sit by the docks... (Boston, Lincolnshire that is. The REAL one  )
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arkiruthis
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 07:23:25
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Because we lost the war for the colonies. I blame King George. PS - lol, does anyone remember the Cakewalk Studio Instruments pricing announcement where the £ price was actually higher than the $ one? (it was a genuine mistake that time, though) 
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 07:29:13
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strikinglyhandsome1
We have to pay taxes and the like. This is still well short of the actual total. The rest is because we have to subsidise other countries - like America - and also to pay for Cakewalk employees second homes in exotic locations.
Hehe. Also, if you ask Cakewalk why we can't order stuff via credit card in $USD and have the card company charge the correct EU tax calculation (which happens with everything else I buy from the States), suddenly everything goes verrrrry ominously quiet...
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 07:29:29
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I should imagine many died due to an acute apoplectic rage
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 07:34:36
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strikinglyhandsome1
We have to pay taxes and the like. This is still well short of the actual total. The rest is because we have to subsidise other countries - like America - and also to pay for Cakewalk employees second homes in exotic locations.
Hehe. Also, if you ask Cakewalk why we can't order stuff via credit card in $USD and have the card company charge the correct EU tax calculation (which happens with everything else I buy from the States), suddenly everything goes verrrrry ominously quiet...
Who pays the import duty?, and the admin fee for a respresntative company in the EU to report the "importation" of the goods to the EU. Importing into the EU even by download is governed by set laws. with regard to the OPs point, as I mentioned in the other thread, just because you have ordered vat and tax free previously from another company doesnt excempt you from being liable to pay the tax and duty on that previous purchase. Technically, you owe VAT and import duty to customs and excise in your country of purchase for importing the goods.
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arkiruthis
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 07:50:17
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Who pays the import duty?, and the admin fee for a respresntative company in the EU to report the "importation" of the goods to the EU. Importing into the EU even by download is governed by set laws.
Being charged duty and tax on delivery suits me fine! Especially if it's an itemised invoice. What I want (and everyone else would like), is TRANSPARENCY. I want to know WHAT the value of the product is, in and of itself. WHAT is being charged DUTY. WHAT is being charged EU VAT and then say that it is a fair deal because I KNOW what I have paid is correct under the law. There is something terribly random about these prices across different products. We're both fans of Cakewalk (I think). But I am still very nervous about these prices, and both being Scots we have a terrible stereotyped reputation for paying no more than the correct price.
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 07:59:50
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If you want the disk and no other elite upgrade go telephone Edridol, you may be surprised.
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 08:50:34
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arkiruthis
We're both fans of Cakewalk (I think). But I am still very nervous about these prices, and both being Scots we have a terrible stereotyped reputation for paying no more than the correct price.
You are being too generous here, being Scots we have a reputation to make sure we pay less than the cost price for it in the first place. I dropped some money they other day, hit me on the back of the head as I bent down to pick it up. (they say the old ones are the best............ ............well I disagree)
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 09:58:58
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syrath
arkiruthis
strikinglyhandsome1
We have to pay taxes and the like. This is still well short of the actual total. The rest is because we have to subsidise other countries - like America - and also to pay for Cakewalk employees second homes in exotic locations.
Hehe. Also, if you ask Cakewalk why we can't order stuff via credit card in $USD and have the card company charge the correct EU tax calculation (which happens with everything else I buy from the States), suddenly everything goes verrrrry ominously quiet...
Who pays the import duty?, and the admin fee for a respresntative company in the EU to report the "importation" of the goods to the EU. Importing into the EU even by download is governed by set laws.
with regard to the OPs point, as I mentioned in the other thread, just because you have ordered vat and tax free previously from another company doesnt excempt you from being liable to pay the tax and duty on that previous purchase. Technically, you owe VAT and import duty to customs and excise in your country of purchase for importing the goods.
It's the person ordering the goods who pays the import duties and Vat not the company sending the goods. My business does this all the time. Technically you could still have to pay this VAT and Import duty as you have no proof it was paid by cakewalk as you have no breakdown of the transaction. Also as a business you have a VAT number and you can claim back this VAT. But you need receipts for the Vat paid.
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shakey.oberon
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 12:12:27
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uk gets ripped off by everyone for everything, we've just gained a reputation for moaning about costs and then paying them anyway, and companies exploit that
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 12:20:42
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Same here in Switzerland, I'm not going to give in though (Dad was scottish)... I'd rather pay for the crossgrade to another software than be ripped off like this - I still can't use 8.3.1 as advertised (V-Vocal crashes etc.) - Not a happy customer here!
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 12:22:10
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by the way, pricing in UK and rest of europe are the same, they0re ripping us all....
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 12:56:03
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fitzj
It's the person ordering the goods who pays the import duties and Vat not the company sending the goods. My business does this all the time. Technically you could still have to pay this VAT and Import duty as you have no proof it was paid by cakewalk as you have no breakdown of the transaction. Also as a business you have a VAT number and you can claim back this VAT. But you need receipts for the Vat paid.
Very true. Just for the record prior to devoting a life to making video tutorials I worked in international transport for over 15 years.
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 13:56:57
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What I want (and everyone else would like), is TRANSPARENCY. I want to know WHAT the value of the product is, in and of itself. WHAT is being charged DUTY. WHAT is being charged EU VAT and then say that it is a fair deal because I KNOW what I have paid is correct under the law.
There is something terribly random about these prices across different products.
We're both fans of Cakewalk (I think). But I am still very nervous about these prices, and both being Scots we have a terrible stereotyped reputation for paying no more than the correct price.
If things were transparent you'd know who is ripping you off :-) Sometimes I think THEY use a dart board. Don't worry, the 250 years since my Scotch-Irish ancestors arrived here in America hasn't made me any less chea ... frugile. Some things die hard.
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 15:46:27
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I know, have you seen the windows 7 divide, unbelievable vocalid
by the way, pricing in UK and rest of europe are the same, they0re ripping us all....
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Karyn
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 20:02:15
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I don't wish to fan any flames, but here's an extract from an FXpansion newsletter I got tonight... BFD Signature Snares Vol.1 is GBP £35, Euro €49, USD $70 for all registered BFD2 owners.
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 20:05:08
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Karyn
I don't wish to fan any flames, but here's an extract from an FXpansion newsletter I got tonight...
BFD Signature Snares Vol.1 is GBP £35, Euro €49, USD $70 for all registered BFD2 owners.
Why are prices so much higher in the US? It must be a conspiracy. @
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http://www.bnoir-film.com/ there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/17 20:22:16
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Karyn , ya do know where FX expansion are based ?? .. that has a LOT to do with it..London... so the sayings coals to newcastle comes to mind. personally I blame the whole situation on AT... It's his fault.. and I'd wish he'd admit it 
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/18 00:46:36
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Damn Fog, you got me. Bwwaaahhhh!
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ivanSC
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/18 02:32:43
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There is a solution. I "live" in 3 countries and pick the one where stuff is cheapest.
My windoze 7 and my sonar were of US origin, thankyew.
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/18 02:48:26
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Pricing in Australia is the same as US.
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Re:Why is UK pricing so high?
2009/09/18 03:35:57
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Fret Wizz
Pricing in Australia is the same as US.
We is paying the tax's there.
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