how do i setup multimbral omnisphere?

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kevvvvv
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2009/11/12 17:34:13
What do I have to do to get all 8 Omnisphere channels running multitimbrally so I can record 8 separate midi tracks?

Also: Does this mean I have to have 16 tracks showing in Track View to get 8 playable tracks?


I'm using S8.3PE/W7

thanx = kev
SONARtist
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/12 18:03:56
If you open the MULTI page, it gives you the possibility of selecting patches per each of eight tracks.  And you can assign them to a MIDI channel which you will have as a corresponding track in SONAR.  I believe you only need 8 SONAR tracks (I do).  HTH
kevvvvv
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/12 18:15:47
Thanks Sonartist.


 I understand the Omni end of the setup.

It's how I do the Sonar setup in Insert Soft Synth Options, or such, that I'm uncertain of.

I want to get the right tracks, and the right number of midi channels, and the right number of audio tracks to match the 8 channels I setup in Omni.

Sorry to sound so dim

Can you advise?
SONARtist
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/12 18:42:50
As it's very late here (almost 1 in the morning) and I'm not on the system, this is going to be from the top of my head.

So, you set up Omnisphere in SONAR by adding it to the Synth Rack.  There you have an option whether you only want the main synth outputs (2 channel stereo) set up, or all possible outputs (can't remember the wording exactly).  If you choose all possible outputs, then SONAR should set up at least four stereo tracks, if not eight, together with MIDI tracks (again, this may differ as I do NOT use SIMPLE Intrument tracks and so have separate MIDI tracks). If you get only four, then you can clone another four.

Set up your MIDI track channels in SONAR to (example) 1-8, and make sure the MULTIs are also set up that way.

That should be it.
SONARtist
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/12 18:44:19
... Once you got your MIDI channels playing what you want, then you should be able to bounce the output to Audio tracks.
kevvvvv
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/12 18:46:23
yes, it's late ... but thanks

appreciated
kevvvvv
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/13 02:48:32
er ... I'm still not sure I get this (sorry)

What should I expect to see?

8 audio tracks and 8 midi tracks?

Does Insert Soft Synth Options generate all this?

Or is there something else I have to do?


SONARtist
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/13 09:02:16
I'm back now, and I'll take a look on my main system and get back to you ...  hang on.
SONARtist
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/13 09:58:04
Okay, here goes ...

Starting with a completely blank project :-

1.) Add Omnisphere through either the Synth Rack or "Insert Soft Synths". When presented with the window I choose MIDI Source, Synth Track Folder and All Synth Audio Outs Stereo (later when you know how it works, you can try other combinations, e.g. simple instruments, mono, etc.).
SONAR now builds a Track Folder, 8 stereo audio tracks, assigned as Channels A to H, and ONE MIDI track assigned to NO channel.
2.) Clone 7 more MIDI tracks by selecting the one just created (should be track 9) and using "Tracks / Clone"
3.) Optional, but I do  it ... Select all newly created MIDI tracks (10 to 16) and move to Omnisphere folder by right clicking on any selected track and using "Move to Folder" -> Omnisphere.
4.) Assign MIDI channels to the MIDI tracks (use Channels 1 to 8)

5.) Open Omnisphere, go to MULTI page.  At left you'll see that all channels go to OUT A, so change channels 2 to 8 to route to OUT B, OUT C, OUT D etc. using the dropdown.
6.) Select you patches (I do this in Omnisphere, as I'm not sure what happens if you choose them in SONAR.  Theoretically it should also work that way).
7.) Record your MIDI tracks, one by one or collectively, or feed the cat ... whatever ...
8.) Play back and you'll see in the CONSOLE that each output has its' own MIDI and Audio channel.

That's it ... easy as giving the cat another goldfish !!  I hope this is what you asked  
kevvvvv
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/13 10:52:52
Sonartist .. you are very kind to take the trouble and I really appreciate it.

I could not find this information anywhere.


It's exactly what I needed.


I will bookmark this page 

Thank you again

kev
SONARtist
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/13 11:01:56
My pleasure.  In fact I only own Omnisphere about a month.  Let me know how you like it ...
kevvvvv
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/14 05:49:55
I love Omnisphere. Previously, I've been into film score sounds.

I'm now wanting to explore Omnisphere as a dance synth, hence I need multitimbrality.

How about you?
SONARtist
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/14 06:29:47
One thing I've learned from others on this forum (the best forum !) is that it is best if you have more than one instance of Omnisphere, and therefore using fewer tracks/channels in each.  Spreads the load out apparently.

I love Ominsphere and I hope there are other plugins which are comparable in quality.

Just a funny thing ... while I was getting details to explain all this to you, I just tracked anything for the test, choosing patches at random, playing just a couple of things on the keyboard, literally 5 mins ... and lo, and behold, I got a song out of it :-)  Okay, so I used Beatscape to just add some quick drums, but even so it's amazing what you can do with Omnisphere.  I can't wait to get into tweaking the sounds also ...
kevvvvv
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/14 17:53:40
SONARtist "Just a funny thing ... while I was getting details to explain all this to you, I just tracked anything for the test, choosing patches at random, playing just a couple of things on the keyboard, literally 5 mins ... and lo, and behold, I got a song out of it :-)  Okay, so I used Beatscape to just add some quick drums, but even so it's amazing what you can do with Omnisphere."

Yeah funny a funny thing ... like I was testing all the tips you kindly gave me ... and lo ... I got this trancey tune out. Okay, so I used Stylus to add some quick drums, but even so it's amazing what you can do with Omnisphere.
SONARtist
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/15 04:34:58
kevvvvv


SONARtist "Just a funny thing ... while I was getting details to explain all this to you, I just tracked anything for the test, choosing patches at random, playing just a couple of things on the keyboard, literally 5 mins ... and lo, and behold, I got a song out of it :-)  Okay, so I used Beatscape to just add some quick drums, but even so it's amazing what you can do with Omnisphere."

Yeah funny a funny thing ... like I was testing all the tips you kindly gave me ... and lo ... I got this trancey tune out. Okay, so I used Stylus to add some quick drums, but even so it's amazing what you can do with Omnisphere.


Funny !!!  ROFL ...
kevvvvv
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Re:how do i setup multimbral omnisphere? 2009/11/15 12:55:50
yay ... stacking sounds in multitimbral  Omni is amazing!