I push play, but it doesn't play

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2009/11/16 00:10:29 (permalink)

I push play, but it doesn't play

I recorded a song, and I want to play it, but when I push play nothing happens. What do I do?
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    gamblerschoice
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 00:19:50 (permalink)
    We need some details. What did you record, how did you record it, are you sure something recorded, what is your computer, soundcard, operating system, which version of music creator are you using...

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 01:11:38 (permalink)
    Its a song with 5 audio tracks, straight in with a mic. I have an amd athlon (tm)64 x2 dual core processor with on board sound (I think). I am running music creator4 with windows xp.
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 05:20:15 (permalink)
    In these 5 audio tracks,

    1) Are there wave forms showing visible audio recorded?
    2) And also, does each of your audio tracks include the input and outputs of the soundcard you are using.
    3) Are you using an audio interface for your card, the internal soundcard your computer came with?
    4) If using your onbard soundcard, have you run the WaveProfiler yet?
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 07:52:03 (permalink)
    Another question. How did you record 5 tracks of audio with an onboard factory soundcard if you didn't play it back?  To record the second track, and so on, you would have had to use the playback/record at the same time to hear the first tracks you already recorded to multitrack it...... no?

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 10:56:32 (permalink)
    Well I had sound when I recorded it, but not now. There are wave files, I can see them. I messe around with it a little last night and got the bar to move when I push play, but there is still no sound. I can see the meters rising and falling so I know something is going on, but no sound. I already ran the wav profiler. I just got an interface but I haven't begun to use it. Input is stereo IDT Audio 1 and output is IDT Audio 2.
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 11:53:49 (permalink)
    amd athlon (tm)64

     
    Does that "64" mean it's a 64-bit processor? Weren't there 2 versions of MC 4, one for 32-bit and another for 64-bit? If so, which verson did you install?
    This is from a Cakewalk support page: http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/FAQ/x64_FAQ.aspx#8
    8) What Cakewalk programs can I install under a 64 bit Operating System?
    Any application that is specifically supported under Vista or Windows 7, has also been approved to function under Vista x64 or Windows 7 x64 (in 32-bit emulation mode). This means that if an application such as: Guitar Track Pro 4, Music Creator 5, or SONAR Home Studio 7 does not list 64-bit OS support on he packaging or system requirements, this is only referring to native 64-bit support. Unlike SONAR, the for mentioned programs contain only 32-bit versions of the program, whereas SONAR contains separate 32-bit and 64-bit applications on the disc.
    If you are running a 32 bit program under an x64 Operating System you should expect it to work just as well as running under a 32-bit OS; however, you will not see the same benifits as a SONAR x64 user, such as increased RAM utilization. 32-bit applications are still limited to accessing 2-3GB of RAM even in a 64-bit environment.
     

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 12:51:37 (permalink)
    Music Creator 4-it says Record at up to 24-it quality. I really don't think that has anything to do with it though. When I recorded my song I was able to play it back just fine.
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 13:25:05 (permalink)
    Music Creator 4-it says Record at up to 24-it quality.

     
    Audio 24-bit depth has nothing to do with whether your processor is a 64-bit processor.
    Sometimes these numbers in the names of computers mean nothing, like it's 'Model # 64', but if it means that your processor is a 64-bit processor, that could be pertinent to your problem.

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 13:34:29 (permalink)
    Ok. I see what you are saying, but what I am saying is that I haven't changed my processor since I recorded my song. When I recorded my song I was able to play it back and hear it just fine (with my 64 bit processor). That was a couple of months ago.
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 13:44:52 (permalink)
    Gotcha.
    Go to 'Options>Audio' at the top and make sure your input and output drivers are still selected, and that your sound card is listed and selected as both the Recording and Playback Timing Masters.
    Check what the driver mode is. MME is the oldest, slowest driver; WDM is the better choice, and if you have ASIO available, see if you can select that.
    Open your Windows mixer and ensure that your ins and outs are selected and that the volume sliders are up and unmuted.
    Make sure that "IDT Audio 2" is not the S/PDIF output.

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 15:09:04 (permalink)
    For recording and playback timing masters the only choice i have is IDT audio1 and IDT audio 2. I assume that is my soundcard. I also tried to switch my driver mode from mme to both ASIO and WDM and got an error message. When I push play I can hear a click as the bar starts to move and when I push stop as well. By "windows mixer" do you mean my "volume control"? I think everything is ok on "volume control", however I don't see any place for ins and outs or S/PDIF. There is a place for S/PDIF as my output  in my IDT Audio Control Panel, but there are no options for it.
    Is "volume control" the same as "windows mixer"?
    "Make sure that "IDT Audio 2" is not the S/PDIF output."  Do I check that in mc4 or somewhere else?
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 15:35:08 (permalink)
    Recording and playback timing master should be set to your soundcard.  If you do not know if you have ASIO drivers, then you probably do not.  I would say to stick with MME for now, for even though they are the slowest, they are usually the most dependable.  Check your inputs and outputs within the app to be sure that the signal flow is correct.  When you switch back to MME drivers, you are going to have to run the wav profiler again.   Windows Mixer does have volume control but I'm not completely sure if we're referring to the same thing.  It's the big-ish control-board looking thing.  On most systems you can get to it by right clicking on your little speaker icon in the system tray and click "open volume control" and it pops up.  Make sure nothing is muted in there.   Also when in there, go to options> properties, and you can check setting for playback and for recording there. 
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 16:31:18 (permalink)
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 16:44:02 (permalink)
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 17:01:34 (permalink)
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 17:02:10 (permalink)
    You sure have a lot openned on that screen, i would close WMP first, then second look under the general and advanced tabs and see what is under record and playback timers.

    I wonder what IDT audio 1 and IDT audio 2 are?  hhmmm it seems that you only have wave file on one side of the track, could it be that that is the other side from what you are listening to?
    TRy checking IDT audio 2 and see if it plays.

    also all tracks are set to play thru Audio 1 plus the master strip as well. HHHmmm

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 17:13:43 (permalink)
    Ok. It's playing now. I had to change my input to left or right instead of stereo. I guess it wasn't recorded in stereo. Thanks.
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 20:00:41 (permalink)
    Cool that is what i was thinkin'

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/16 21:37:32 (permalink)
    Good catch, Rob. I looked at those screens and didn't even see that.
    Looks like he hasn't yet read anyone telling him to pass all audio through a master bus before sending the audio to the sound card. Tracks and bus are set to sound card.
    Sixty-one seconds, when recording from mono instruments like guitars or microphones, set your input for Left (usually) to get a mono signal to the track. That way you'll get the whole signal instead of half, and it will be easier to pan left or right.
    Glad you got it working.

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/17 13:12:24 (permalink)
    IDT audio is my sound card, is that right? So instead of IDT as my input i check master bus?
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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/17 13:24:35 (permalink)
    is something still not working?

    master bus shouldn't be available as an INPUT to anything.  you can change all of your track outputs to master bus and set the master bus output to your soundcard, but not the inputs.

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/17 21:21:34 (permalink)
    Ace, that was kind of a joke, but not really...
    It's recommended to send your audio track's outputs to 1 or more buses before they go to the sound card's main output. It looks like you have a single bus in your screen shot, but you can add more if you want.
    You might have multiple guitars in a song; send them to a bus labeled 'Guitars'; same with vocals; send them to a bus called 'Vocals'; drums; ditto.
    That way if you want an effect on the vocals but not on the guitars, you can insert an audio effect in the bus's effects bin so the effect will act only on the vox. Same with guitars or any other instrument you want to effect.

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    Re:I push play, but it doesn't play 2009/11/18 13:42:14 (permalink)
    Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the help. I'm sure you will be hearing from me again......
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