Redgrizz1
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Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar? The waves site tech sheet say that the side chaining function of this plug-in does not work with Sonar inparticuliar. That seems strange since side-chaining has been avaible on Sonar now for the past several versions. Anyone with experience with this - I'm thinking about buying the plug, but won't if it has short-comings with Sonar 8.5.2
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xxrich
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 11:53:34
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I am experiencing the same. If you have figured anything out, please let me know:-)
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 12:38:24
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Ikes - I bought this a few weeks ago - just installed it - haven't tried it - but seriously? Someone (Waves) is saying it doesn't work with SONAR?
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 13:53:31
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Hey Redgrizz,
I think that sidechaining in Sonar only works with some of the sonnitus plugins.
The waves Vocal Rider is on my list of the must have plugins, but this news is a little worrying.
I'll try and download a demo to see how it performs, but due its simplicity I'm sure CW could come up with their own Automatic Automation Writer.
Rod
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xxrich
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 15:04:27
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It is working great for me:-) (no side-chaining yet though, that I can figure).
Very useful without the side-chaining.
-rich
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 16:03:35
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Redgrizz1
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 18:03:37
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Hey - Glad it's working well for you. I guess what I understood the side chaining in the plug-in would do was to allow it to ride relative to other track volumes (which seems pretty critical). are not finding that short-coming to be all that big of a deal? Also, I assume you tried side-chaining and it indeed does not function with this?
Thanks,
Mark
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xxrich
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 18:17:54
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I tried side-chaining and said to myself "this doesn't seem to be taking", so then found your post here. I have an email into waves support about it.
Trying it now to help out my vocal compression schema:-)
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Redgrizz1
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 18:39:27
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Thanks - let me know what you hear from Waves.
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xxrich
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 23:35:29
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I do notice it is a pig on memory. Nothing concrete yet, but it's pushing all my otherwise fine mixes over my 32 bit limit. More than one.
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/30 23:42:13
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I don't think it's meant to be a side-chain plugin. It's more designed to be inserted into a track. ...but then again, I could be wrong. Regardless, it's conceptually a great idea.
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jamescollins
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/31 01:29:41
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Well this is bad news, it looks like a huge time saver (imagine all the hours we could save on vocal automation with this thing...) but if sidechaining doesn't work in Sonar, then I guess it's game over. Does anyone know why it doesn't work? I assume the issue is with Sonar, seeing as it's working on all other host programs. Would be great to have a work around for this. xxrich, do let us know if you hear back from Waves - I'm not holding my breath though!
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Odieman
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/31 07:05:01
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Actually, Waves says that sidechaining is only supported in Cubase, Nuendo, Studio One and Pro Tools. All other DAWS don't support sidechaining. Some people on Gearslutz say they prefer it without sidechaining. YMMV
Keith
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jamescollins
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/31 08:55:10
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Prefer it without sidechaining? I just assumed it would be pretty pointless without it, but obviously not. Think I'll just download the demo and have a look...
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Redgrizz1
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/31 13:38:51
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Hey James, I'm thinking the same thing- seems like the side chaining would give it a more intelligent ride relevant to the tracks. Let me know how your demo of it goes. Still waiting to hear back from the guy who emailed Waves. Thanks, Mark
post edited by Redgrizz1 - 2009/12/31 13:48:19
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/31 14:42:10
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You would only use sidechain if you wanted other elements to cause the source to duck. The plug-in is not reliant on it and is certainly useable without it.
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xxrich
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/31 18:34:03
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Waves did get back to me. I like the tool. Very useful. Editorial comment though is that Waves is still very far from my model of a caring software company. Their stuff all works under Vista x64, what's the big deal? Acknowledge it! :-) (rant over) " Sonar has no Music side chain support with the Vocal rider plug-in
You can check the Waves version 7 supported hosts and formats -pc list from here
Please note that Waves isn't supported under Vista x64 If you need further assistance feel free to contact us or visit www.Wavesupport.net
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jamescollins
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Re:Anyone using Waves Vocal Rider Plug with Sonar?
2009/12/31 20:13:28
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LOL you gotta love Waves! Maybe they keep up their 'we're all a bunch of pricks' act because it goes hand in hand with the name Waves. It used to make me angry, but now I just laugh - such beautiful software, but what a way to deal with customers - reminds me of Basil Fawlty a bit, when he's imagining what he'd do if he were invisable, "I know, I'll go and lie down...no I won't, I'll go and hit some guests!"
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