Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer software help

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Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer software help

I am new at everything here.  I want to get into computer recording and mastering what I record.
I have looked on the net and found several DAW programs, some seem like you need to spend lots of time and money to learn how to use them.  Cakewalk Sonar Producer 8.5  looks very powerful, but I have found training DVD's to help with the learning curve.
I have decided that it  will be 8.5 producer.  With that said,what are :
" VST "
" AU"
"TDM"
can I use any plug-in with 8.5
What are plug-in's that are called " native "
Do I need a Mastering software ( like Sony Sound Forge )
Thanks for any help
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    Kalle Rantaaho
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    Re:Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer software help 2009/12/18 08:02:37 (permalink)
    Welcome!

    I feel that answers to your questions would lead to a very long chain of new questions, so I recommend you go to

    tweakheadz.com

    There are excellent guides for a newbie about everything concerning home recording. The terminology and different instrument types are all described in language that a normal person can understand.


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    Re:Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer software help 2009/12/18 10:41:04 (permalink)
    " VST " " AU" "TDM" can I use any plug-in with 8.5 What are plug-in's that are called " native " Do I need a Mastering software ( like Sony Sound Forge )

    VST, AU and TDM are different standards for communicating between DAWs and plugins. DX and RTAS are two others. In the SONAR world, you'll only care about VST and DX, as the others only apply to Macs and/or Pro Tools. DX is fading in popularity because it is Windows-only, so VST is far and away the most popular plugin interface specification. Note that none of them have any inherent advantage as far as sound quality.

    A "native" plugin is one that does not require additional hardware to run. VST, DX, AU and RTAS are all (mostly) native plugins. TDM runs specifically on Digidesign DSP cards. Some products, such as the UAD2 stuff, run on specialized hardware but provide a standard VST plugin that takes care of the communication between the DAW and the non-native software. They look like standard VST plugins to you and to the DAW, but are actually non-native.

    No, you do not need dedicated mastering software. You can do it all in SONAR. Sound Forge is a nice addition to one's toolbox for wave editing. (Although I'd encourage you to use Adobe Audition instead, simply because I have a dislike for Sony.)


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    Re:Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer software help 2009/12/18 21:31:34 (permalink)
    bitflipper

     VST is far and away the most popular plugin interface specification. Note that none of them have any inherent advantage as far as sound quality.
    Hey bitflip, do you think the VST wrapper in 8.5.2 adds any overhead?  Presumably, the *only* advantage to DXi was no extra overhead from a wrapper.


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    Re:Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer software help 2009/12/18 22:13:47 (permalink)
    don't worry about this and that for now just start using the software... read your manuals and follow their tutorials.  as you get further into it you'll find all that stuff out.  i suggest reading sonar power for additional info.  sonar 8.5 has every thing you need to get going and to write, edit, and master.  you do not need any extras for now just get familiar with the actual program.  once you get all you can out of sonar's plugs(which has tonns) you can look into others such as the uad2.  if you really want a complete system that you won't need to add to many extras to i would also suggest the v-studio.  comes with everything...8.5 software, console, high quality i/o and lots of ad/da as well as a built in v synth module.
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    Re:Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer software help 2009/12/18 22:32:25 (permalink)
    I have decided that it will be 8.5 producer. With that said,what are : " VST " " AU" "TDM" can I use any plug-in with 8.5 What are plug-in's that are called " native " Do I need a Mastering software ( like Sony Sound Forge ) Thanks for any help

    VST is the only one you can use with sonar. VSt, VSTi, DX and DXi's are all for sonar and other window programs.
    No, you do NOT need a mastering software. You can do it all with sonar. I do...
    Native means it native to that program and only that program.
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    Re:Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer software help 2009/12/19 00:03:54 (permalink)
    Peter J


    bitflipper

    VST is far and away the most popular plugin interface specification. Note that none of them have any inherent advantage as far as sound quality.
    Hey bitflip, do you think the VST wrapper in 8.5.2 adds any overhead?  Presumably, the *only* advantage to DXi was no extra overhead from a wrapper.


    There is no VST Wrapper in SONAR 8.5. VST is supported natively, just like DirectX.

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    Re:Cakewalk Sonar 8.5 Producer software help 2009/12/20 21:26:44 (permalink)
    Thanks to all for the information.  This is all very new to me and I want to do it right .
     
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