Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread

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bitflipper
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2010/01/14 20:40:32
Wednesday:
Arrived around noon. Couldn't get to our hotel because a 12" water main had broken underneath Katella Avenue (the primary east-west route through Anaheim), causing a large palm tree to begin falling over. We had to watch from across the street while they sawed it up. Then we had no water until they could dig up the street and repair the line. They were outside the window jack-hammering literally all night.

Some little thing goes wrong every time I make this trip, so hopefully that was it and all will go smoothly from here on out.

Enjoyed 6 hours of excellent free music at the Marriott, adjacent to the convention center. Saw a great act consisting of drums and Chapman Stick. The guy was a true master of that difficult instrument. They called themselves Agent 22.

BTW, if you go, go to the Marriott rather than the Hilton. The Hilton's acoustics are unbelievably awful - like soloing the reverb return - and the band was led by a hot fusion bass player, so imagine a bass solo in a shower stall. At the Marriott, the seating was comfy couches.

The NAMM show doesn't start until tomorrow (Thursday), but the exhibitors were out drinking on the company's dime Wednesday. All but the Cakewalk crew. They were at the convention center setting up until 2:00AM.

It wasn't until I got back to the hotel after midnight that I discovered I had not brought along a cable for transferring snapshots to my laptop. Damn, I am such a moron. I did the same exact thing last year. That's why there are no photos accompanying this post.

post edited by bitflipper - 2010/01/14 20:43:48
John
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 20:47:43
Have a great time Bit!
yorolpal
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 20:49:00
Then you and lady liberty and the MGM Grand?? will have to suffice until tomorrow.  
...wicked
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 21:05:51
I'm just gonna go out on a limb and guess that SOMEbody at that convention has the adapter cable you need. There's prolly enough geek power down there to take on Deep Blue at chess.
e.Blue
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 21:13:12
Bitflipper,

You could always pick up (or borrow) a memory card reader and pull the card out of your camera to dump the pics to your laptop...

Hope it helps,

-eB
riojazz
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 21:16:35
Nice report; will enjoy reading more.

If you see a Tascam rep, please tell him/her that there are users of their equipment in the USA who would very much appreciate them changing their policy and supporting Windows 7 for that equipment.  The Tascam FW-1802 and FW-1884 are two examples.  Thanks!

dontletmedrown
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 21:21:48
FYI, if any of you iPhone users are going to NAMM, there is a $2 app that essentially takes the place of the huge NAMM directory.  You can also use wi-fi to track your location on its maps.  I've been to 3 NAMM shows and at some point (after a few beers ) I always end up saying "HAVE I BEEN HERE ALREADY?"  I mean, after the 20th room full of guitars they can start to look the same.

See you tomorrow Bit!
post edited by dontletmedrown - 2010/01/14 21:23:06
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 21:22:50
Thursday:

Spent the morning at Roland. Could have spent the entire day there. Continuous presentations that are entertaining concerts on their own merit regardless of the marketing message. First up in the morning was a guy doing gospel with a vocal harmony generator that puts my tc helicon box to shame.

Other cool product was their new digital piano/synth. Modeled after a Steinway and sounding extraordinarily, eerily close to the real thing.  And only a couple grand - you have to buy a $350 add-on to get that ultra-realistic piano. They claim it has no looped samples and infinite velocity layers. I asked the presenter how that was possible, but he did not know. ("I'm just the piano player"). All I know is it sounded amazingly realistic. Better than Ivory.

Next stop was the Cakewalk booth, where I had a very nice chat with Willy and kept him from doing his job of talking to actual important people for way too long. He finally gave me a t-shirt to go away. Nice t-shirt, too. I wonder what he'll give me tomorrow to go away again.

On being unimportant: in 2008 I had a "V" badge, the lowest echelon right above blatant gate-crashers. In 2009 I had graduated to an "E" badge. This year, I have been demoted to a lower rank that I didn't know existed: an "N" badge, which I suspect stands for "Nobody".

I related my tale of cable woe to Willy, and like the champ he his, whipped out a USB cable from his pocket! Here ya go, he says. I repaid his generosity by making him pose in front of the new product they've been promising, and took his picture.

The big new product announcement: a line of MIDI keyboards. Semi-yawn. Wait a minute, that's only a semi yawn. The keyboards are actually pretty nice, with a pleasant synth-like action and all the programmable knobs and buttons and pads you could want. But they have one thing that makes them a Cakewalk product: a button labeled "ACT". Does what you think.

So I happily set about taking snapshots, knowing I'd be able to upload them later. So where are they? you ask. Well, I'll tell you a sad story. They're coming, trust me.

But first, let me tell you about today's brush with celebrity...
bitflipper
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 21:28:05
Sorry, my fascinating story will have to wait till later tonight, I've been informed we're off to a concert...

smoochy
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 21:51:39
bitflipper


Wednesday:
Arrived around noon. Couldn't get to our hotel because a 12" water main had broken underneath Katella Avenue (the primary east-west route through Anaheim), causing a large palm tree to begin falling over. We had to watch from across the street while they sawed it up. Then we had no water until they could dig up the street and repair the line. They were outside the window jack-hammering literally all night.

Some little thing goes wrong every time I make this trip, so hopefully that was it and all will go smoothly from here on out.

Enjoyed 6 hours of excellent free music at the Marriott, adjacent to the convention center. Saw a great act consisting of drums and Chapman Stick. The guy was a true master of that difficult instrument. They called themselves Agent 22.

BTW, if you go, go to the Marriott rather than the Hilton. The Hilton's acoustics are unbelievably awful - like soloing the reverb return - and the band was led by a hot fusion bass player, so imagine a bass solo in a shower stall. At the Marriott, the seating was comfy couches.

The NAMM show doesn't start until tomorrow (Thursday), but the exhibitors were out drinking on the company's dime Wednesday. All but the Cakewalk crew. They were at the convention center setting up until 2:00AM.

It wasn't until I got back to the hotel after midnight that I discovered I had not brought along a cable for transferring snapshots to my laptop. Damn, I am such a moron. I did the same exact thing last year. That's why there are no photos accompanying this post.


something tells me that disaster pretty much follows you around.... life is more exciting that way anyways.  well good luck in namm...  maybe you'll win a cake walk rep.
Steve Mac
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 23:08:34
While bitflipper is off at the concert (and probably enjoying a drink or three), here's my report:
 
Arrived right at 10:00 and did a quick wander around the main floor just to see if anything stood out.  Decided to do things a little differently and went to the "downstairs" area (if you've been to NAMM you know what I'm talking about!), but it's where a lot of unique products are shown.  And companies that are just starting out.  Saw the Batmobile (the 1960s one) and a buy who designs cars with the trademark black and red accents.
 
Also spent some significant time at Roland, and played with the eBand box (fun thing to have at the office!).  And then off to Cakewalk.
 
They put on an excellent presentation regardng 8.5, which included the new keyboard bitflipper mentioned.  It's fun to meet the Bakers in person; they are extremely nice and helpful.
 
I then spent a few minutes with the guy who have the presentation (sadly, I can't recall his name) and asked him why certain widgets are unavailable in the Simple Instrument tracks (e.g., interleaving) and to his credit he laughed, said they should, and that he would pass it along to the production guys!
 
I don't have time for a huge rundown, but really enjoyed the presentation re: Alloy (which is like Ozone but for tracks and busses, with a much lower CPU requirement, and some nice little toys built in). 
 
Am going back on Saturday, and if I see something worth describing, I'll let you know.
 
Oh yeah, from a non-DAW perspective, there were two things I really enjoyed:
 
1.  The VoiceCapo (voicecapo.com); get it, you'll have a blast.
2.  Taylor Guitars' new baritone 8-string.  It sounds great.
 
More to follow (but first, I hope, bitflippers' pictures).
 
Steve
post edited by Steve Mac - 2010/01/14 23:10:06
Urdypooh
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/14 23:54:42
Thank you guys for the reports. I am looking forward to reading more.
(Stupid me planned his trip to L.A. too late in the month. :-( )
Robin Kelly [Roland]
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 00:55:19
Steve Mac


While bitflipper is off at the concert (and probably enjoying a drink or three), here's my report:
 
Arrived right at 10:00 and did a quick wander around the main floor just to see if anything stood out.  Decided to do things a little differently and went to the "downstairs" area (if you've been to NAMM you know what I'm talking about!), but it's where a lot of unique products are shown.  And companies that are just starting out.  Saw the Batmobile (the 1960s one) and a buy who designs cars with the trademark black and red accents.
 
Also spent some significant time at Roland, and played with the eBand box (fun thing to have at the office!).  And then off to Cakewalk.
 
They put on an excellent presentation regardng 8.5, which included the new keyboard bitflipper mentioned.  It's fun to meet the Bakers in person; they are extremely nice and helpful.
 
I then spent a few minutes with the guy who have the presentation (sadly, I can't recall his name) and asked him why certain widgets are unavailable in the Simple Instrument tracks (e.g., interleaving) and to his credit he laughed, said they should, and that he would pass it along to the production guys!
 
I don't have time for a huge rundown, but really enjoyed the presentation re: Alloy (which is like Ozone but for tracks and busses, with a much lower CPU requirement, and some nice little toys built in). 
 
Am going back on Saturday, and if I see something worth describing, I'll let you know.
 
Oh yeah, from a non-DAW perspective, there were two things I really enjoyed:
 
1.  The VoiceCapo (voicecapo.com); get it, you'll have a blast.
2.  Taylor Guitars' new baritone 8-string.  It sounds great.
 
More to follow (but first, I hope, bitflippers' pictures).
 
Steve


Hi Steve,

It was me you  talked to and thank you for the kind words. We are running a crazy setup this year with an A-800 PRO, VS-100 and VS-700 on the mainstage, routed to a digital snake, sent to the FOH via CAT 5 and then mixed in the M-380 mixing console. From there the signal goes up to the PA and also routes back up the CAT 5 cable where we have M-48 personal mixers where we can control our own mix (voice, SONAR output, live instruments etc) which is separate form the PA. There is also an assorment of Edirol video equipment being used like the V-440HD and P-10 presenter for all the cameras and video feeds we have. Brandon and I were joking we could lietrally do a demo about the booth! Intel is also with us at the show and have provided some pretty stunning machines so the bottom line is we have a lot of cool toys to play with.


I can confirm I have passed on your feedback to the Product Management team.
BTW- You should definitely come and check out the artist demos as it gives you a different view of the products. You know they cut out the sales/corporate stuff.

Here's the schedule.

http://www.cakewalk.com/events/namm2010/

Robin
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 03:01:14
Well, I still don't have a damn cable for my camera. No pictures yet. It's a long walk to the Target down the street, but I'm kind of getting used to walking. I probably walked 5 miles today, maybe more. It's probably a quarter mile just from one end of the show to the other.

So here's my surreal NAMM moment for today. It's the kind of bizarre thing that only happens - for me, anyway - at NAMM.

I'm sitting outside near the John Lennon bus. It's a mobile studio they use to suck innocent children into a life of music, financed by the very vampires who will then sell them all the stuff they'll be taught to lust for.

I have lost track of the person I'm supposed to meet for lunch. I am hungry, and eying the taco stand with the full knowledge that eating there would be a regrettable decision (because I'd done it last year) but feeling weak in the knees from having only coffee for breakfast. But I digress.

So I'm sitting near the John Lennon bus reading product literature from AEA. The AEA guy, I believe the founder of the company, wearing a top hat and sandals and looking to be in his 70's and looking like he'd be a cool guy to hang out with, gives me some show swag, including an AEA mouse pad that I'm using right now. They are the coolest-looking mics and they sound really good, too. I got to try them all out. But again I digress.

I am sitting near the John Lennon bus entirely focused on trying to plug in the USB cable that Willy had given me into the camera, but it won't fit. Maybe I'm putting it in upside-down. Maybe that's not the USB port. Hunger has starved my brain of blood sugar and I'm cursing my short-term memory for forgetting to bring the damn cable in the first place. Finally, I decide it's too nice a day - 100% blue sky, mid-70's - and stash the camer and light a stogie.

Then I noticed a commotion nearby. A few feet away there is a platoon of beefy goons in black, obviously heavyweight security, standing in a semicircle. A crowd of people has surrounded them. This caught my attention, as it is unusual, even at a strange event like NAMM.

You see, rock stars are a dime a dozen at NAMM (and in LA generally) and none of them have bodyguards. The somewhat jaded showgoers pretty much leave them in peace. So I'm wondering what kind of megastar comes to the show with a large entourage of goons. Must be somebody of major importance, so I decide to wait around and see who it is, maybe take a picture to post here - assuming I find a damn cable.

I notice that some of the crowd are obviously paparazzi, with the kind of serious photographic gear you normally see at sporting events. One of them walks by me, turns and asks "is she still on the bus?". I reply that I have no clue who "she" is, so he walks on, not considering that I might want to know too. And now my curiosity has been piqued. These guys have obviously scheduled their day around this event. Who could this mystery celeb be? Rock royalty, surely. Britney? Hanna Montana? As I said, my curiosity had been piqued.

While I'm waiting, some genuine superstars come by - Jackson Browne and Quincy Jones - and I snap their pictures. Both are gracious and accommodating, signing autographs and letting people have pictures taken with them. Browne wouldn't sign one guy's album, which pissed the fellow off and he began berating JB and telling him that sure, the album was destined immediately for ebay if he'd sign it, but it was JB's patriotic duty to help the California economy. JB wasn't buying it, but he kept smiling and shaking hands. I thought: good for him. A rock star with principles.

Mr. Jones is the classy gentleman you'd expect him to be, smiling genuinely, letting strangers put their arm around him for photos, and signing anything they stuck in his face. Personally, I wouldn't do that. I'd at least use a fake signature. Maybe he does.

After a few minutes, JB and QJ split on one of those carts they haul old people around on at the airport, leaving the crowd in an excited state.

More
dark-suited goons show up, with earpieces like secret service agents - but clearly not SS agents because they're yakking about sports and look bored. Pros for sure, but more like Kevin Costner in The Bodyguard, that kind of pro. One of them, apparently like the head goon, sizes me up and decides I'm just another show geek and do not pose a threat. Good thing, because I already had a prepared speech about how this was a free country and dammit I can sit anywhere I please. Luckily, I did not have an opportunity to test the efficacy of that speech.

Finally, the door of the bus opens up and out steps the superstar. I can see why she has a platoon of mercenaries surrounding her, because the crowd looks like they want to do something dangerous, like crush her. And she is just this little old Japanese lady, looking very vulnerable at the center of a mob.

Of course, as you've probably guessed, it was Yoko Ono. Indeed, the most famous little old Japanese lady on the planet.

What a scene. The crowd is shouting her name. Some are begging for her to sign albums. No kidding, they held collector-quality Yoko Ono albums out. Who are these people? And where did they find those albums?

This was the first time I'd ever seen this kind of celebrity-worship frenzy up close. It was kind of disgusting and kind of scary. If I were her, I would have hired a goon platoon, too.

Yoko smiled with that Queen-in-a-parade kind of vacant, practiced smile and was hustled quickly into the limo. Fans continued to shout her name and beg her to roll down the window even as the car pulled away.

The entire scene lasted maybe 30 seconds. It was pure happenstance that I wound up in the middle of it, but most of those other people had been waiting for hours for that moment. I wondered where they went after that. Perhaps to stalk some other celeb.

Photos to follow...
post edited by bitflipper - 2010/01/15 03:34:47
nprime
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 03:06:00
Wow, the only thing missing was you being on peyote.

Nice Gonzo moment.
ivanSC
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 04:09:58
but there again who the F**k is Yoko Ono anyway?

JL`s tuneless missus is my best bet....
Skyline_UK
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 05:28:58
Enthralling, bitflipper, keep it coming!
(ivanSC - yes, my sentiments exactly.  The luckiest ever Japanese old lady on the planet...)
thomasabarnes
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 07:29:32
Very amusing reporting, bitflipper. Keep it coming. It's an amusing thread.

And try to get some pics posted, man?:) Adapt and overcome to the situation. Take that walk to the Target down the street, if you have to? :)
post edited by thomasabarnes - 2010/01/15 07:36:57
jackn2mpu
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 07:50:23
Bit:
Thanks for the report. As to your camera woes - is yours a Canon dslr? They use a mini USB connector on some of the models. That's a difficult one to find.
jcschild
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 09:13:36
Bitflipper,
dude you should be a writer. seriously!
that last bit about Yoko kept me wanting to read, you managed to pull me in.
MurMan
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 10:26:55
I heard that Ms. Ono was there to endorse a new line of pitch correctors. 
Dave Modisette
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 10:35:29
MurMan


I heard that Ms. Ono was there to endorse a new line of pitch correctors. 


If they have one that will work on HER voice, I definitely want it. 
Middleman
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 10:56:22
See, sometimes life comes at you when your not looking.

I spent most of the morning at NAMM looking over some new mics (U47 knockoffs) and playing with all the new Cakewalk keyboards, synths and interfaces. There are some new AT pencil mics that are pretty cool. See all of you guys at the booth after lunch today.
smoochy
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 11:14:40
bitflipper


Well, I still don't have a damn cable for my camera. No pictures yet. It's a long walk to the Target down the street, but I'm kind of getting used to walking. I probably walked 5 miles today, maybe more. It's probably a quarter mile just from one end of the show to the other.

So here's my surreal NAMM moment for today. It's the kind of bizarre thing that only happens - for me, anyway - at NAMM.

I'm sitting outside near the John Lennon bus. It's a mobile studio they use to suck innocent children into a life of music, financed by the very vampires who will then sell them all the stuff they'll be taught to lust for.

I have lost track of the person I'm supposed to meet for lunch. I am hungry, and eying the taco stand with the full knowledge that eating there would be a regrettable decision (because I'd done it last year) but feeling weak in the knees from having only coffee for breakfast. But I digress.

So I'm sitting near the John Lennon bus reading product literature from AEA. The AEA guy, I believe the founder of the company, wearing a top hat and sandals and looking to be in his 70's and looking like he'd be a cool guy to hang out with, gives me some show swag, including an AEA mouse pad that I'm using right now. They are the coolest-looking mics and they sound really good, too. I got to try them all out. But again I digress.

I am sitting near the John Lennon bus entirely focused on trying to plug in the USB cable that Willy had given me into the camera, but it won't fit. Maybe I'm putting it in upside-down. Maybe that's not the USB port. Hunger has starved my brain of blood sugar and I'm cursing my short-term memory for forgetting to bring the damn cable in the first place. Finally, I decide it's too nice a day - 100% blue sky, mid-70's - and stash the camer and light a stogie.

Then I noticed a commotion nearby. A few feet away there is a platoon of beefy goons in black, obviously heavyweight security, standing in a semicircle. A crowd of people has surrounded them. This caught my attention, as it is unusual, even at a strange event like NAMM.

You see, rock stars are a dime a dozen at NAMM (and in LA generally) and none of them have bodyguards. The somewhat jaded showgoers pretty much leave them in peace. So I'm wondering what kind of megastar comes to the show with a large entourage of goons. Must be somebody of major importance, so I decide to wait around and see who it is, maybe take a picture to post here - assuming I find a damn cable.

I notice that some of the crowd are obviously paparazzi, with the kind of serious photographic gear you normally see at sporting events. One of them walks by me, turns and asks "is she still on the bus?". I reply that I have no clue who "she" is, so he walks on, not considering that I might want to know too. And now my curiosity has been piqued. These guys have obviously scheduled their day around this event. Who could this mystery celeb be? Rock royalty, surely. Britney? Hanna Montana? As I said, my curiosity had been piqued.

While I'm waiting, some genuine superstars come by - Jackson Browne and Quincy Jones - and I snap their pictures. Both are gracious and accommodating, signing autographs and letting people have pictures taken with them. Browne wouldn't sign one guy's album, which pissed the fellow off and he began berating JB and telling him that sure, the album was destined immediately for ebay if he'd sign it, but it was JB's patriotic duty to help the California economy. JB wasn't buying it, but he kept smiling and shaking hands. I thought: good for him. A rock star with principles.

Mr. Jones is the classy gentleman you'd expect him to be, smiling genuinely, letting strangers put their arm around him for photos, and signing anything they stuck in his face. Personally, I wouldn't do that. I'd at least use a fake signature. Maybe he does.

After a few minutes, JB and QJ split on one of those carts they haul old people around on at the airport, leaving the crowd in an excited state.

More
dark-suited goons show up, with earpieces like secret service agents - but clearly not SS agents because they're yakking about sports and look bored. Pros for sure, but more like Kevin Costner in The Bodyguard, that kind of pro. One of them, apparently like the head goon, sizes me up and decides I'm just another show geek and do not pose a threat. Good thing, because I already had a prepared speech about how this was a free country and dammit I can sit anywhere I please. Luckily, I did not have an opportunity to test the efficacy of that speech.

Finally, the door of the bus opens up and out steps the superstar. I can see why she has a platoon of mercenaries surrounding her, because the crowd looks like they want to do something dangerous, like crush her. And she is just this little old Japanese lady, looking very vulnerable at the center of a mob.

Of course, as you've probably guessed, it was Yoko Ono. Indeed, the most famous little old Japanese lady on the planet.

What a scene. The crowd is shouting her name. Some are begging for her to sign albums. No kidding, they held collector-quality Yoko Ono albums out. Who are these people? And where did they find those albums?

This was the first time I'd ever seen this kind of celebrity-worship frenzy up close. It was kind of disgusting and kind of scary. If I were her, I would have hired a goon platoon, too.

Yoko smiled with that Queen-in-a-parade kind of vacant, practiced smile and was hustled quickly into the limo. Fans continued to shout her name and beg her to roll down the window even as the car pulled away.

The entire scene lasted maybe 30 seconds. It was pure happenstance that I wound up in the middle of it, but most of those other people had been waiting for hours for that moment. I wondered where they went after that. Perhaps to stalk some other celeb.

Photos to follow...


very cool man... so it's not just bad shi$ that follows you around?  good reporting.  i think you missed your calling.  you should be a paparazzi...  of coarse you'd have to hire an assistant to keep the camera working...lol

to the idiot that said... "who the f$%k is yoko anyways"  man i don't even know what to say to that... except the same could be said of you.  she is a part of music history... perhaps back in the day when music did mean something to alot of people.  and as a musician i think it shows a lack of respect to the people, all of them not just Yoko, that encouraged an entire new generation of musicians to think out side the box.   i'm not a die hard fan of the Beatles nor Yoko but give credit where credit is due.  anouther thought would be that perhaps rather than stealing from Lenon she preserved the integrity of the man she loved.

very cool story bit... a once in a life time score....
...wicked
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 11:34:02
nprime
Wow, the only thing missing was you being on peyote.
Nice Gonzo moment.
HA! For The Win.

strikinglyhandsome1
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 11:40:11
Yoko Ono even managed to split up her solo career.

She's the equivalent of seeing a black cat on friday 13th while walking under a ladder.
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 11:55:15
Turns out the reason for Yoko's appearance was that she had just donated $200k to the John Lennon foundation and needed to hold a press conference to gloat about it. Flew in from her home in NYC to stand in front of an oversized check and everything.
riojazz
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 12:03:31
I recall the day a relative of mine (sorry to say) placed many quarters in the jukebox for the ski center and played one Yoko Ono flip-side song all afternoon, non-stop.  As we approached the second half-hour, people went screaming to their cars.  At least we had the trails to ourselves, but it wasn't pleasant.


smoochy
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 12:04:31
strikinglyhandsome1


Yoko Ono even managed to split up her solo career.

She's the equivalent of seeing a black cat on friday 13th while walking under a ladder.


actually i think the bullet pretty much did in Lenon...  that being said... you'll get no argument out of me that she was a disaster... however you can't be naive enough to think that lenon wasn't the one driving the bus to his own demise.  they were on the way down the shoot and although they definitively went down an odd path, possibly because of her, toward the end.  i think that if it were not for all that, the group may have ended with a whimper rather than a bang... no pun intended...lol  history is not made up purly of heroes.  music history is riddled with disasters... jimmy hendricks...jim morrison...and on and on...and then there are all the ones that lived through their infancy such as bowie, the stones and just about every other artist on the planet.  including the ones that no one ever heard of.  the mistakes we make are what makes us who we really are... not our successes... you can hide behind success but you can't hide behind your mistakes...  i don't even know what that means... but it sounds cool...lol   do you think many people would even remember the Beatles the way they do, had it not been for the rather colorful chapter that Yoko definitely played a part in?  it's history man... wonderful colorful history.




post edited by smoochy - 2010/01/15 12:11:25
smoochy
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 12:09:22
smoochy


strikinglyhandsome1


Yoko Ono even managed to split up her solo career.

She's the equivalent of seeing a black cat on friday 13th while walking under a ladder.


oops





post edited by smoochy - 2010/01/15 12:11:56
brundlefly
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 13:12:49
she had just donated $200k to the John Lennon foundation

 
Seems to me that would be more like: "she had just returned $200k to the John Lennon Foundation"...
 
Great story, bit. wish I could justfy the trip. I've been an exhibitor for other industry shows in Anaheim, and lived right up the road in Brea for a brief period. Brings back the memories.
 
 
...wicked
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 13:19:55
The archetype of the meddling/distracting girlfriend is universal for bands. Yoko was simply the first and best example. So perfect that her name is now synonymous for it in both noun and verb forms. While I think it's a little lame it's still more than I've achieved in my career. 


I knew I should've seduced John Lennon when I had the chance. *sigh*




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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 14:35:23
I knew I should've seduced John Lennon when I had the chance. *sigh*

Dude, you were six years old then. You'd have put the guy away for life.

...wicked
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 14:47:50
DON'T JUDGE ME! 
Thrillington
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 14:48:25
"i think that if it were not for all that, the group may have ended with a whimper rather than a bang"


I think they did go out with a bit of a whimper actually. Except John of course who went out with a bang.  Now all we have left of the Fabs is the world's richest Drum and Bass duo... p.s. the Remasters are awesome.


Thanks for the crucial insights Bitflipper. Engrossing reading, these posts.




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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 15:02:59
Well here I sit in my hotel room, where I had to return because my camera battery went dead. I tell ya, it's a good thing I've pursued audio instead of photography as an avocation.

I brought a camcorder this year. Took 30 seconds of video, then the battery went dead. After unpacking all my chargers and cords (cell phone, iPod, camera, laptop and two mystery devices) I realized I'd brought the wrong charger. So no video this trip. Maybe next year.

I still haven't managed to get out of the software section of the show. Haven't seen any guitars or drums or amps or even many microphones. There is just too much cool stuff there in the software hall.

Coolest thing seen/heard so far today: a new orchestral library for Kontakt 3.5/4. And it really is new - the developer just finished it up last week and didn't know if he'd be able to show it till the last minute. Consequently, he had no brochures or anything. After my battery charges, I will return for a snapshot. My camera is my notebook. Saves collecting a lot of paper. But I cannot now even remember the name of the product! Consequently, here I sit, waiting for the red light to turn amber on a little plastic box, because without the camera all I have left is short-term memory.

strikinglyhandsome1
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 15:06:49
You may want to tattoo your name and hotel on your forehead.
It could save a lot of time.
liv4ree
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 15:20:06
Bit, forget songwriting, you should be writing for magazines. I love reading your stories man. :) Now hurry up with the pictures.
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 15:29:59
Also seen/heard this morning: version 7 of Altiverb, still in development. I stopped by because I wondered what you could possibly add to what is arguably the most sophisticated reverb around.

The answer is a really cool-looking interface. Very pretty, very colorful, but best of all it's been greatly simplified and streamlined. Has a nifty relational browser for finding just the right acoustical space, with little photographs of the actual spaces. You can search on things like "wood surfaces", or "similar to...". For a reverb junkie, it's the ultimate.

Also checked out Lexicon's new software reverb. It's the same code taken out of the PCM96 but optimized to run on a computer - so it's not quite as good. But it sells for $1500 versus $4000 for the hardware version. Unfortunately, for my budget the distinction doesn't matter. I'll never pay that much for reverb. It's reverb, fer crissakes!

I noticed a general trend this year for traditional hardware companies to get into software. If you'd never heard of Universal Audio and walked up to their booth, you'd think they'd always been software company.

Big crowds at that booth, I think because they are holding interviews with big-name artists and audio dudes. All of whom probably got free gear in exchange for extolling the amazing virtues of the UA software. I wonder if they really took their pay in software or asked for an 1176 instead.

Although Cakewalk has moved up to a larger booth - the slot previously owned by DigiDesign - they've got some serious competition right across the aisle this year, and it's not ProTools. Presonus is making a big splash with their new DAW, recording live performances at their booth and drawing good crowds. I'll have to sit down for a demo because I still don't get what the excitement is over.

Should be fun sitting at the Presonus booth, seeing as how I am wearing the Cakewalk t-shirt Willy laid on me yesterday. It's the best t-shirt to date, with a dignified "Cakewalk by Roland" on the front and a gaudy "I-heart-NAMM" on the back.
DaveClark
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 16:25:57
Hi Dave,

Thanks for your (now annual?) report on NAMM.  I enjoy reading your posts, adventures and all.

On Presonus: Studio One, I presume?  I sent a long apparently ineffective critique ("Think Aloud" on first uses) to Jonathan Hillman, then a marketeer --- Product Manager or some such title --- about all the problems I had trying to use it for MIDI.  Now please understand (everybody) that I don't particularly like SONAR either for MIDI, but both Reaper and Presonus' Studio One are really bad for MIDI-based projects.  Studio One has some really nice additions to MIDI editing over clumsy and buggy SONAR MIDI editing, but working with it on a real project was such a pain that I concluded I wouldn't use it if it was $40 for any of the MIDI-based projects I normally do.  It seemed to me to be a step backwards in every area other than MIDI editing.  So many things about it are just plain dumb.

The excitement may be over the ease of use for some folks, primarily those who work exclusively with audio, audio clips, etc.  It really is easy to use for those things, but so is Reaper.  I don't understand the "irrational exuberance" either.  Please do let us know if you figure it out and/or succumb to it.

Have fun!!

Best regards,
Dave Clark
 

DonM
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 16:38:33
Bit:
Go see the TC Electronics new Guitar tuner - a polyphonic tuner - very cool.

-D
Jeff Evans
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/15 17:52:56
Dave if you have time go and check out the Open Labs stand and see what is going on there. They have not released anything new as they did earlier this year but have a look at the Neko as well as SoundSlate! Serious.
tarsier
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 11:05:47
It's the best t-shirt to date, with a dignified "Cakewalk by Roland" on the front and a gaudy "I-heart-NAMM" on the back.

But is it black? My two Cakewalk T-Shirts are black, and they don't get along well with the studio cats. I'd prefer a nice seafoam or teal.

fitzj
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 11:38:39
forget all the technical and tell us what are the girls like there lol
Middleman
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 12:38:01
fitzj


forget all the technical and tell us what are the girls like there lol

Some where beautiful but covered it with dyed black hair and too much makeup. Some dressed like 18 year olds but were 40+, hanging out of their scantily clad outfits. Some were scantily clad and looked outstanding! News at 11.
 
On another note, I went to the Yamaha concert tonight with a stellar line up of Vince Gill, Michael McDonald, Natalie Cole and some newer artists whose names I can't remember. Vince stole the show in my book. One man, one guitar into a Fender DR. He brought the crowd out of their seats with Little Liza Jane.
 
Also saw Nathaniel Kunkel at the UAD booth. He talked about his approach to the mix and using UAD plugins.
 
I met the elusive but articulate Bitflipper today. Bit, really enjoyed talking to you about converters and 2 buss strategies. I agree with your post above about software becoming an increasing force. The first 1/3rd of the hall next to the Roland expo was pretty much the best part of the show. The other 2/3 was guitar and drums and after the 40th or 50th booth of those, it becomes a little mind numbing. So many strat and tele knock offs you wonder "Why, and do these new companies really have any hope of success?"
 
One of coolest things I saw today was the new 500 series console frames. PetesPlace.com I believe. Very cool frame for building a custom 500 series console. Last I received good news from the Grammy folks. My work on a PC game 10 years ago qualifies me to join as a voting, not associate member. Whoo Hoo! You have to have at least 6 musical works that have sold and I wrote 12 orchestral pieces for a game in the late 90s. They said that would qualify me. Made my day.
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 13:19:54
so imagine a bass solo in a shower stall.


Exactly where the CHB wishes I would do all my solos.
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 13:39:39
Thanks for the updates Bit & Middle.

I'm an hour away and I could not scare up a pass.
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 14:37:54
Sounds fun, Bit.  If Steve from AZAudio says Janet says hi, that's me.  I just bought something from him online and he said he was going to NAMM.  I knew it was a long shot, but since you seem to be in all the right places at all the right times, I thought he just MIGHT run into you.

You remind me of me--you enjoy writing about your experiences as much or more than the experiences themselves.  Although you write it better.  :-)  Have fun.  Next year hopefully some of us will remember to remind you to take your cables and the right battery.  I'm surprised no one did.  :-) 
dontletmedrown
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 14:38:33
I showed up at the Cake booth yesterday and gave Bit a ring and left a voicemail, but no answer.  Bummer!  There was a presentation already going on.  I scoped out the audience and saw 4 or 5 people that I thought could possibly be Bit.  Cori Yarckin was standing behind me and I was surprised that she looked so young.  From the myspace pics I assumed she was older and taller.

I watched the presentation then I talked to a Cake rep whose name I don't remember (sorry).  He was a cool guy though.  He was showing me the new midi controllers and I started telling him my needs for a midi controller (basically small, built like a tank- maybe steel contruction and superb touch/response) and how there is nothing like that on the market that I can find. 

Also I told him how I was trying to meet up with other people from the forums.  I told him how sometimes we complain a lot, but we really just love the software and he seemed to understand completely.  He encouraged me to keep voicing my concerns.  He said that the information gets logged and that they do spend time reading customer feedback.  I thought that was awesome!  He gave me and my girlfriend shirts and entered me in a contest to win a VS100.

Other interesting things from NAMM:

-Watching Eddie Kramer give a very entertaining and educational demo.  He has a great personality and let us ask questions about his approach.

-Meeting Will Shanks at the UA booth and talking about the future of UAD and my own personal needs.  After that I watch Arabian Prince give his presentation-- very interesting.  After that they did a cell phone game/giveaway where the winner received their choice of a UAD2 Duo or a UAD2 Laptop.  The guy sitting across from me won.  DOH!

-Playing with Wavemachine Labs' "Voice Band" at their booth which I ended up purchasing later that evening.  If you haven't seen his youtube video, check it out

-I think we saw Steven Tyler unless this guy was just an extreme look-alike.  Can anyone else confirm that Tyler was at the NAMM show?

-Eating at Morten's Steak house was AMAZING.  Even the SPINACH was good?!?!

Very fun time!  Still debating whether we want to go back on Sunday.
Middleman
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 14:43:21
Morten's is fantastic. Dave Escobar, if you are at the show today I will come by Cakewalk's booth around 2PM. Would like to chat about your 2buss. Love the mixes on your site.

I will be wearing a blue hawaiin shirt and blues jeans...and I'm very tall. My son and I are doing the show today.
dontletmedrown
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 15:30:12
Oh damn, I'd love to, but I don't think we can be there today.  Will you still be there tomorrow?  Either way I'm always down to chat about recording.
MurMan
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 15:49:48
I met Bit yesterday at the Cake booth.  He's lots of fun, but sadly, almost as old as I am.  He's still having 'technical difficulties' with his camera, but I got this shot on my Blackberry.  You can see Seth Perstein in the Cake booth doing a demo and Cori Yarckin, one of their featured artists in the foreground.  Cori had just snagged Bit's autograph on the front of her shirt moments before I took the shot. 
  
BitFlipper At NAMM
 
Roland's booth was huge.  I really like the new V-combo VR-700 keyboard and the VP-7 Vocal Processor.  The VP-7 could make my voice sound good.
 
Motu had Al Kooper singing and playing with some tracks.  Nothing great, but it's always good to see a legend up close.
 
I did a quick tour of the guitar section and realized that I was the only guy not wearing black. 
 
My ears are still ringing from the Adam booth.  They had a surround system using Adam monitors that was the best I've ever heard.  I had a ten minute private demo that was amazing.  Also really loud.
 
I also found the pitch corrector that Yoko is endorsing.  Its rack mount and has a wireless remote for the sound guy.  Looks like the big red 'That's Easy' button from the Staples commercials and has big letters that read 'Ono'.
post edited by MurMan - 2010/01/16 15:56:01
jackn2mpu
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 17:22:00
For those that spent time at the Cake booth - did any of you take a look across the aisle at the Avid/Digi booth? I've been spending time over on the DUC and some have said it's kind of bleak over there. According to the layout online at the NAMM site Cake & Avid/Digi were right across from each other and that Cake's booth was bigger. Kinda makes one think, doesn't it?
Dave Modisette
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 19:29:50
I also found the pitch corrector that Yoko is endorsing. Its rack mount and has a wireless remote for the sound guy. Looks like the big red 'That's Easy' button from the Staples commercials and has big letters that read 'Ono'.
  Was that spelled "Oh, no!" by any chance? 
Robin Kelly [Roland]
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 22:25:26
Here's our Flickr photostream if you want to see all the pictures form the first 2 days of the show.

http://www.flickr.com/pho.../show/with/4275044444/

Robin
Robin Kelly [Roland]
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 22:25:29
Here's our Flickr photostream if you want to see all the pictures form the first 2 days of the show.

http://www.flickr.com/pho.../show/with/4275044444/

Robin
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/16 23:21:47
Nice pics Robin and nice to be sure if you missed first post too.
Paul Russell
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/17 05:31:03
Also checked out Lexicon's new software reverb. It's the same code taken out of the PCM96 but optimized to run on a computer - so it's not quite as good. But it sells for $1500 versus $4000 for the hardware version. Unfortunately, for my budget the distinction doesn't matter. I'll never pay that much for reverb. It's reverb, fer crissakes!
 
I don't know why you think it's not quite as good. It's exactly the same algorythms but wihout the non-reverb FX you get in the actual unit. There's already been a large debate about it, with input from the coder himself, and the conclusion is that there's no audible difference.
dburns
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/17 11:43:33
MurMan,

Was that picture BitFlipper or Philip Seymour Hoffman?

Thanks for the narrative, Bit. :)
smoochy
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Re:Bitflipper's 2010 NAMM Thread 2010/01/17 13:24:11
bit you said you had a chance to try out some SE mikes... i think you did anyways... what did you think of them... i'm looking right now.
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