dedreign
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Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
Hello all, I have an Ensoniq SQ-1 plus with a ton of music I wrote in the mid 80's. It works just fine as a midi trigger for Sonar but I can't seem to figure out how to get my midi tracks out of my keyboard into Sonar. Hitting PLAY on the keyboard does not send anything to Sonar. I know this is more of a SQ-1 question than a Sonar question but any help is appreciated.
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papa2005
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 16:45:15
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You have to send the MIDI out (and possibly the audio, as well if that's what you want) from the SQ-1 into SONAR via your Fast Track... How do you have it configured?
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dedreign
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 16:55:48
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Midi out is working since I can use it just fine to trigger/record midi in Sonar. It is just trying to get my sequences from SQ to Sonar that has me stumped. How do I have it configured? Well, Midi out from SQ to Midi in on Fast Track. Sonar just seems to magically recognize anything midi plugged into the Fast Track as I have never has to set any channels etc. I just insert soft synth and go.
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 16:59:54
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I know this is more of a SQ-1 question than a Sonar question but any help is appreciated. Yeah some hardware sequencers don't send MIDI to the Output when driving an internal synth. I don't know whether the SQ1 can be made to do it or not. Google is your friend.
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dedreign
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 17:09:42
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Yep, one of the few times google completely failed me. It may just not be possible. Would have been cool though. I guess I should be happy that the 3.5 floppies still work after 25 years :)
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 17:14:23
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Can't you save your MIDI data to the floppy and either pull it into Sonar, or if that is not possible use some sort of convert program to put it in a format that modern DAWS can read? Chicken systems had/has conversion programs.
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 17:42:00
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Yendor
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 17:43:04
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Yes, it can be done! I have a VFX-SD and I believe they have the same if not similar sequencer. You just need to change the Clock in Sonar to look for MTC (Midi Time Code) as an external event. Set up all your tracks for the corresponding Midi channels on both Sonar and your ESQ-1, and arm the tracks. Under ESQ-! midi control there's a send stop/start that needs to be enabled. Hit Record in Sonar and play on your esq-1 and it should trigger Sonar.. Sonar will wait (and seems like it's locked up) until you hit play. After the song is ended (hitting stop, or however you have it set up), then you cna hit escape in sonar, and change the clock to audio or whatever it was previously . Then you can mute the tracks and record audio to each track independantly, if desired. Let me know if this progresses you or not, as I'm going by memory. Also, you may want to put the PPQN to 96 (Ensoniq standard), or at least experiment with it. You can also do the reverse (sonar driving esq1) up to the 24 track limit at once! This is cool, as you can noodle later w/o turning on your daw. I really love the Ensoniq Sequencer. That company is sorely missed in the industry. There's also an alternative, using the Gieblier software, which takes the ensoniq format and converts it to a midi smf file. The downside, that you need a DOS computer for it due to the way it reads the floppy. Look for it on Giebler.com.
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dedreign
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 18:01:28
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Thanks Yendor! I will try that tonight. As far as the converting programs, I tried to put the floppies into an old laptop I have that still has a floppy drive - it says "Unrecognized format" I'll dig deeper on that since it appears other folks are doing it. A DOS computer? hmmm that might be tough :) Thanks all I really appreciate all the input. I'll let you know how it goes.
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papa2005
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 18:04:25
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FWIW, I still occasionally use my Ensoniq ASR-10 in SONAR and it works fine...I would thik the SQ-1 wouldn't be much different...It's all in how you configure the SQ to play "nicely" with SONAR...
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 18:06:44
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Yendor Yes, it can be done! I have a VFX-SD and I believe they have the same if not similar sequencer. You just need to change the Clock in Sonar to look for MTC (Midi Time Code) as an external event. Set up all your tracks for the corresponding Midi channels on both Sonar and your ESQ-1, and arm the tracks. Under ESQ-! midi control there's a send stop/start that needs to be enabled. Hit Record in Sonar and play on your esq-1 and it should trigger Sonar.. Sonar will wait (and seems like it's locked up) until you hit play. After the song is ended (hitting stop, or however you have it set up), then you cna hit escape in sonar, and change the clock to audio or whatever it was previously . Then you can mute the tracks and record audio to each track independantly, if desired. Let me know if this progresses you or not, as I'm going by memory. Also, you may want to put the PPQN to 96 (Ensoniq standard), or at least experiment with it. You can also do the reverse (sonar driving esq1) up to the 24 track limit at once! This is cool, as you can noodle later w/o turning on your daw. I really love the Ensoniq Sequencer. That company is sorely missed in the industry. There's also an alternative, using the Gieblier software, which takes the ensoniq format and converts it to a midi smf file. The downside, that you need a DOS computer for it due to the way it reads the floppy. Look for it on Giebler.com. Same here - SD1 in fact - the sequences traveled fine (but that was years ago that I did those transfers!) -D
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brundlefly
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 18:13:15
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A DOS computer? hmmm that might be tough :) I keep an old warhorse 286 around for just this kind of thing. It has 5.25" and 3.5" floppies, and can read and write all the old DOS formats. I used it get my Roland MC-500's system disks backed up. It has an MPU-401 MIDI interface in it, too.
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Yendor
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Re:Ensoniq SQ-1 to Sonar
2010/02/11 19:13:51
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The Ensoniq disks are in proprietary format. The Giebler tools does some low level calls to the floppy drive to be able to read/write the information and convert it back to dos. You don't need a DOS computer, you just need a floppy drive and the ability to boot into DOS, and of course, the Giebler tools. I believe FREEDOS will work, too. http://www.giebler.biz/category.sc;jsessionid=A8AB7E9C0E6BCBC7D6C998D95F5F01EB.qscstrfrnt04?categoryId=3 Again, you can just "MIDI Record" if you want too, as well (it's kinda cool to see sonar/vfx working together). If you have lots of songs, which it sounlds like you do, you should go with the giebler tools, I would offer to do it for you, but it seems like it's a different package (EPSSMF). DonM - SD-1 - I'm jealous! Would love to find one cheap nowadays. I've heard of people buying one for like $200. Quitr a price difference from the day! For some reason it seems more intimate writing with it, than using Sonar.
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