V Vocal crashing

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2010/03/05 15:40:45 (permalink)

V Vocal crashing

Hi all,
 
New here, and I did do a search on my topic to lessen any wasted time here, but ...
 
I just started trying to use V Vocal in Sonar 8.5.3 on a Quad-Core PC with WinXP 4Gb RAM and it dumps out every time.  I've confirmed that cronus.dll is active, rebooted, etc... to no avail.  Is there news about VV that I don't know?
 
I want to simply pitch-correct some vocals.  I have the Antares Auto-Tune plugin around, but wanted to see what Sonar's capabilities are and kind of expect it to work.  I've tried small clips, split clips, mono clips and everything else to no resolution.  It thinks about it and announces a fatal error with dump options.
 
Any news on this I should know about?  I just came to Sonar from a Pro Tools life and hope this kind of thing isn't prevalent.
 
Best,
 
Carissa Swenson
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    feedback50
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    Re:V Vocal crashing 2010/03/05 16:08:50 (permalink)
    Are you able to get vvocal open at all? One well known issue is leaving several vvocal clips active withtout bouncing them. Also always use vvocal on a clip (not an entire track). Try a few bars at a time.
    Also for most natural sound, set follow pitch to dead center.
    Good luck and welcome to the forum
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    Goseba
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    Re:V Vocal crashing 2010/03/05 18:21:10 (permalink)
    I have been posting in this thread   http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1686823  about the problem.

    The latest from Cakewalk I have just received (but not yet had a chance to try) is: first to disable the anti-virus, then if no luck do a complete uninstall and clean up of the anti-virus software.

    They also said registry cleaners could cause issues. My laptop is only a couple of months old and I have not used a registry cleaner so this cannot be my issue.
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    evansmalley
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    Re:V Vocal crashing 2010/03/06 03:57:34 (permalink)
    hey Carissa-

    Sonar is actually really great but V-Vocal can be ridiculously buggy and can have audio artifacts that just truly suck the hind. Some folks can use it ok but it's just not the most reliable way to do pitch correction work that there is now from my experience.

    I'd recommend avoiding it. It COULD be awesome from what it promises to do, but it just isn't a really mature app, I think. People recommend Melodine, but I've had problems with that too- so I use outboard dedicated hardware- Antares, for me.

    Sorry not to be of more help in this area. Sonar has SO many things that I love making music with- more than ProTools- but pitch-correction and lack of Varispeed are two gaping flaws in the app.

    And welcome to the forum- it's really fantastic if you don't let the occasional egofreak throw ya. Sonar IS a very fine app!
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    Re:V Vocal crashing 2010/03/06 09:13:18 (permalink)
    Unfortunately, what you're describing is a fairly common problem and has been brought up many many times around here. There have been almost as many "try this, try that" threads in response but to my knowledge, there has never been a confirmed one-size-fits-all solution to this "VV crashing" problem. Could be, there are a number of external factors contributing to this (hardware, drivers, OS configuration, position of the moon... pick one).
     
    I've used VV enough times. Some times I can have a dozen instances of VV running in a single project and not so much as a fart. And then one day you try to run a single instance and kaboom. Never made sense to me either. If that wasn't enough, you'll also eventually get the nasty phasing problem which seems to manifest itself in some cases for no good reason. We all kinda thought it might be related to background noise in the original vocal clip but that was never substantiated either.
     
    At the end of the day, do what most of us do, give up and use Auto-Tune or Melodyne. I use AT myself and while it has it's own set of built-in annoyance (ilok for one thing), at least it doesn't crash Sonar and the sound quality is much better (imo).

    Larry Kriz
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    Sonar PE 8.5, Samplitude Pro 11, Sonic Core Scope Professional/XTC, A16 Ultra AD/DA, Intel DG965RY MOBO, Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz processor, XFX GeForce 7300 GT PCIe video card, Barracuda 750 & 320GB SATA drives, 4GB DDR Ram, Plextor DVD/CD-R burner.
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    moniker
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    Re:V Vocal crashing 2010/03/06 09:20:38 (permalink)
    "V-Vocal Primer or What I Learned By Messing With It" by Pdarg
    See here:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=1963688


    Hope it might help.....

    Kind regards,
    Harry


    post edited by moniker - 2010/03/06 09:44:29
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