A-PRO Setup For Sonar (8 and 8.5)

I purchased the A300 Pro yesterday and wanted to write this set up guide to help people who may have had problems, and straighten something out.
 
The first thing i want to say is that you do NOT have to reprogram midi messages everytime you turn the controller off then on again. This was misleading in the anyone having luck with the A-PRO series key controllers?  as it seems a member said it did. He said they have to be reprogrammed when the keyboard was RESET (by going into the options on the keyboard's lcd screen and selecting Factory Reset.) Obviously, if you do that then of course you have to reprogram everything. Hopefully i havn't read the post wrong, but i don't think i have because i don't have to reprogram the keyboard/daw/synth controls everytime the keyboard's been turned off.
 
Now that's cleared i want to say that i havn't used the A-PRO Editor because i havn't had to. So i can't help you there, sorry.
 
Now on to the guide... I'm using Sonar 8.5.3 PE, but i'm sure Sonar 8 has ACT so it should be exactly the same.
 
The first thing you need to do is install the drivers. They came with your keyboard, but if you've lost the CD (or whatever) you can download them here - http://www.cakewalk.com/support/controllers/default.aspx. Download and install your driver (A-300/500/800 whichever keyboard you have), then download and install the control surface update. (The drivers and control surface update are on different pages.)
 
With that done, open up Sonar. Click options, then MIDI Devices. For the inputs, select A-PRO MIDI IN, A-PRO 1 and A-PRO 2. For the outputs select A-PRO MIDI out and A-PRO. Then click ok.
 
Next, click options, then controllers/surfaces. Click the yellow star to add a controller. Select A-PRO from the conrtoller/surface dropdown menu. Select A-PRO 2 for the midi input, and A-PRO for the MIDI output. Make sure ACT and WAI and both selected. When that's done click close.
 
You should be back on Sonar's main track page. In the top right corner, near the audio engine on and reset buttons, select A-PRO 1 from the dropdown menu. (If you used another controller before the A-PRO this will most probabaly say ACT controller. Click that and select A-PRO 1 instead).
 
On your A-PRO, press the ACT button, so it's lit, and press the back button (on the keyboard still) untill the LCD reads Control Map. Turn the Value knob all the way to the left to select control map 0 (Sonar ACT Map) and press the value knob to select it.
 
In Sonar, open the controller/surface properties page by clicking on the button immediatly left of the Audio Engine On button. If you used to use a generic controller before the A-PRO, then this screen usually has blue and green banks of knobs, sliders and buttons where you can use MIDI learn.
 
If you followed the above, then hopefully this screen should now look completly different. You should see the lcd screen, knobs, sliders, the pads etc... From the presets menu, select Tracks/FX/Synths/Utility 2. (I don't know why, but i find this works better than the default one, which doesn't seem to work at all for me...)
 
So, select Tracks/FX/Synths/Utility 2 and all the transport buttons on the A-PRO should now be working. You should also notice one of the B1-B4 buttons is lit. These tell Sonar what you want to control and you can choose from Tracks Effects Synth or Utility. If you select Tracks, then the first 8 knobs and sliders control the pan and volume (fader) of tracks 1-8. If you hold shift on the A-PRO, you can use the back and foward buttons (underneath the LCD screen) to have the first 8 knobs and sliders control the NEXT 8 tracks (shift and foward) Obviously if you hold shift and press the back button it selects the previous 8 tracks.
 
For example, say you have 24 tracks. By default the first 8 knobs and sliders on the A-PRO control the pan and volume of tracks 1 - 8. If you hold shift and press the foward button (both on the A-PRO) then those same knobs and sliders will now control tracks 9-16. Hold shift and press foward again, and they'll control tracks 17-24. Hold shift and press back and your back to controlling tracks 9-16 etc... etc...
 
Just a quick not about this... If you select Tracks (button 1) then the knobs and sliders will control the tracks knobs and sliders no matter what is in focus. Even if you have a soft synth in focus the knobs and sliders will still move the tracks pan and volume fader. To get around this, when you want to control a soft synth with the knobs and sliders, select Synth (by pressing B3 on your A-PRO. Now when you move the knobs and sliders, you're only controlling the synth in focus.
 
NOTE: You can still control the tracks pan and vloume in Synth mode by not having a synth in focus. (Clicking on any of the track names or numbers, basically.) But if a synth is 'in focus' (the last thing you clicked) then the first 8 knobs and sliders on the A-PRO control the synth.
 
Knob 9 and slider 9 always control the master bus' pan and volume no matter what screen is in focus, or, whichever option you choose (Tracks Effects Synth or Utility).
 
Now for the moment you've all (probabaly) been waiting for - controlling synths with your A-PRO...
 
On your A-PRO, select the Synth option (it's button 3, (or B3). Open up a soft synth. I'll use Rapture (Rapture LE works exactly the same). With rapture open, if you move the knobs, you'll notice they've automatically been mapped. These mappings might not be what you want though (wasn't for me anyway). It's simple enough though. Click the ACT button in Rapture to enable ACT. Move filter 1's cutoff, then filter 1's resonance, then filter 2's cutoff, then filter 2's resonance. On your A-PRO move knobs 1-4 inclusive, then click ACT again in Rapture to turn it off. The cutoff and resonance for both filters are now mapped to knobs 1-4. You can now map whatever you want by enabling ACT, moving a synth control on the screen, then moving the controll you'd like to use on the A-PRO, simple.
 
Now would be a good time to map your most used synths and save your settings. I don't know if you actually have to do this or not but i did it, just in case. Anyway... open up the controller/surface properties page (the button to the left of the Audio Engine On button in Sonar) and click the save button. If you want to see what control on the A-PRO is controlling which parameter on the soft synth, make sure the synth is 'in focus' by clicking on it, then open the controller/surface properties page. Press B3 to select Synth and it will say what they're doing underneath the knobs and sliders etc... In this same page (the controller/surface properties page), you can change what buttons A1-A8 do. Just click the small arrow to open the dropdown menu and choose whatever you like (you can literally choose anything you want that Sonar can do).
 
I mentioned that soft synth controlls automatically get mapped to the A-PRO's controlls. At the minute i don't know how to delete unwanted controlls. The only advice i can give is to use ACT. For example if knob 1 is controlling pitch, and you want it to control the filter's cutoff, just press act (on the soft synth), move the cutoff, move knob 1 and press act again and your done.
 
 
Well, that's about all i know at the minute. I'll end with a few things i noticed...
For some reason, the A-PRO switched the control map automatically from 0 to 19. I don't know why it did this, but it did. If you're using Sonar, you need to use control map 0 (Sonar ACT map). If you find the A-PRO's controlls stop working, select control map 0 on your A-PRO (By pressing the back button (on your A-PRO) untill it says Control Map. Then turn the Value knob all the way to the left to select Control Map 0 (Sonar ACT Map). Also, make sure the ACT button on your A-PRO is always lit.
 
 
I havn't used the A-PRO in Effect or Utility mode yet so can't help on that, and i havn't used any of the other presets yet either because i find  the Tracks/FX/Synths/Utility 2 preset works best after you've mapped your synths.
 
If you have any problems following this guide let me know and i'll try my best to explain it better, but please bear with me because i only started using my A300PRO yesterday.
 
I hope this post wasn't unnecessarily long but i wanted it to be as indepth as possible for someone who's never used the keyboard (or ACT) before.
 
Thanks for your time.

Dude, you are a Golden God ! ! ! :) Thank-you for the excellent and in-depth post ! ! ! ! !

ebcspace


Thank-you for the excellent and in-depth post ! ! ! ! !

 
No problem.
 
After using the A-PRO again today, it doesn't seem to matter if the control map is set to 0 (Sonar Act Map) or 19 (which becomes Sonar Act Map 2).

yes, thanks for this...i most likely wouldn't use the A-Pro with anything but Sonar, so it seems it does exactly what i want...

I can't thank you enough. Suddenly all is clear.  I read the manual but not having used ACT before either, I couldn't figure it all out, just some of it.  Thanks again.

What timing!!  I just finished writing up an A-Pro/Sonar configuration guide myself and was going to post it shortly.  Stay tuned. 
 
One thing nice is that your version explained the B1 thru B4 buttons.  I had no success in figuring out what these were all about.
 
Does this suggest the great minds think alike or just that the documentation that comes with the A-Pro is really lame? 

Haha, i'd say a little of both

Great post. Thanks.

S.Wallis


I purchased the A300 Pro yesterday and wanted to write this set up guide to help people who may have had problems, and straighten something out.
 
The first thing i want to say is that you do NOT have to reprogram midi messages everytime you turn the controller off then on again. This was misleading in the anyone having luck with the A-PRO series key controllers?  as it seems a member said it did. He said they have to be reprogrammed when the keyboard was RESET (by going into the options on the keyboard's lcd screen and selecting Factory Reset.) Obviously, if you do that then of course you have to reprogram everything. Hopefully i havn't read the post wrong, but i don't think i have because i don't have to reprogram the keyboard/daw/synth controls everytime the keyboard's been turned off.
 
Now that's cleared i want to say that i havn't used the A-PRO Editor because i havn't had to. So i can't help you there, sorry.
 
Now on to the guide... I'm using Sonar 8.5.3 PE, but i'm sure Sonar 8 has ACT so it should be exactly the same.
 
The first thing you need to do is install the drivers. They came with your keyboard, but if you've lost the CD (or whatever) you can download them here - http://www.cakewalk.com/support/controllers/default.aspx. Download and install your driver (A-300/500/800 whichever keyboard you have), then download and install the control surface update. (The drivers and control surface update are on different pages.)
 
With that done, open up Sonar. Click options, then MIDI Devices. For the inputs, select A-PRO MIDI IN, A-PRO 1 and A-PRO 2. For the outputs select A-PRO MIDI out and A-PRO. Then click ok.
 
Next, click options, then controllers/surfaces. Click the yellow star to add a controller. Select A-PRO from the conrtoller/surface dropdown menu. Select A-PRO 2 for the midi input, and A-PRO for the MIDI output. Make sure ACT and WAI and both selected. When that's done click close.
 
You should be back on Sonar's main track page. In the top right corner, near the audio engine on and reset buttons, select A-PRO 1 from the dropdown menu. (If you used another controller before the A-PRO this will most probabaly say ACT controller. Click that and select A-PRO 1 instead).
 
On your A-PRO, press the ACT button, so it's lit, and press the back button (on the keyboard still) untill the LCD reads Control Map. Turn the Value knob all the way to the left to select control map 0 (Sonar ACT Map) and press the value knob to select it.
 
In Sonar, open the controller/surface properties page by clicking on the button immediatly left of the Audio Engine On button. If you used to use a generic controller before the A-PRO, then this screen usually has blue and green banks of knobs, sliders and buttons where you can use MIDI learn.
 
If you followed the above, then hopefully this screen should now look completly different. You should see the lcd screen, knobs, sliders, the pads etc... From the presets menu, select Tracks/FX/Synths/Utility 2. (I don't know why, but i find this works better than the default one, which doesn't seem to work at all for me...)
 
So, select Tracks/FX/Synths/Utility 2 and all the transport buttons on the A-PRO should now be working. You should also notice one of the B1-B4 buttons is lit. These tell Sonar what you want to control and you can choose from Tracks Effects Synth or Utility. If you select Tracks, then the first 8 knobs and sliders control the pan and volume (fader) of tracks 1-8. If you hold shift on the A-PRO, you can use the back and foward buttons (underneath the LCD screen) to have the first 8 knobs and sliders control the NEXT 8 tracks (shift and foward) Obviously if you hold shift and press the back button it selects the previous 8 tracks.
 
For example, say you have 24 tracks. By default the first 8 knobs and sliders on the A-PRO control the pan and volume of tracks 1 - 8. If you hold shift and press the foward button (both on the A-PRO) then those same knobs and sliders will now control tracks 9-16. Hold shift and press foward again, and they'll control tracks 17-24. Hold shift and press back and your back to controlling tracks 9-16 etc... etc...
 
Just a quick not about this... If you select Tracks (button 1) then the knobs and sliders will control the tracks knobs and sliders no matter what is in focus. Even if you have a soft synth in focus the knobs and sliders will still move the tracks pan and volume fader. To get around this, when you want to control a soft synth with the knobs and sliders, select Synth (by pressing B3 on your A-PRO. Now when you move the knobs and sliders, you're only controlling the synth in focus.
 
NOTE: You can still control the tracks pan and vloume in Synth mode by not having a synth in focus. (Clicking on any of the track names or numbers, basically.) But if a synth is 'in focus' (the last thing you clicked) then the first 8 knobs and sliders on the A-PRO control the synth.
 
Knob 9 and slider 9 always control the master bus' pan and volume no matter what screen is in focus, or, whichever option you choose (Tracks Effects Synth or Utility).
 
Now for the moment you've all (probabaly) been waiting for - controlling synths with your A-PRO...
 
On your A-PRO, select the Synth option (it's button 3, (or B3). Open up a soft synth. I'll use Rapture (Rapture LE works exactly the same). With rapture open, if you move the knobs, you'll notice they've automatically been mapped. These mappings might not be what you want though (wasn't for me anyway). It's simple enough though. Click the ACT button in Rapture to enable ACT. Move filter 1's cutoff, then filter 1's resonance, then filter 2's cutoff, then filter 2's resonance. On your A-PRO move knobs 1-4 inclusive, then click ACT again in Rapture to turn it off. The cutoff and resonance for both filters are now mapped to knobs 1-4. You can now map whatever you want by enabling ACT, moving a synth control on the screen, then moving the controll you'd like to use on the A-PRO, simple.
 
Now would be a good time to map your most used synths and save your settings. I don't know if you actually have to do this or not but i did it, just in case. Anyway... open up the controller/surface properties page (the button to the left of the Audio Engine On button in Sonar) and click the save button. If you want to see what control on the A-PRO is controlling which parameter on the soft synth, make sure the synth is 'in focus' by clicking on it, then open the controller/surface properties page. Press B3 to select Synth and it will say what they're doing underneath the knobs and sliders etc... In this same page (the controller/surface properties page), you can change what buttons A1-A8 do. Just click the small arrow to open the dropdown menu and choose whatever you like (you can literally choose anything you want that Sonar can do).
 
I mentioned that soft synth controlls automatically get mapped to the A-PRO's controlls. At the minute i don't know how to delete unwanted controlls. The only advice i can give is to use ACT. For example if knob 1 is controlling pitch, and you want it to control the filter's cutoff, just press act (on the soft synth), move the cutoff, move knob 1 and press act again and your done.
 
 
Well, that's about all i know at the minute. I'll end with a few things i noticed...
For some reason, the A-PRO switched the control map automatically from 0 to 19. I don't know why it did this, but it did. If you're using Sonar, you need to use control map 0 (Sonar ACT map). If you find the A-PRO's controlls stop working, select control map 0 on your A-PRO (By pressing the back button (on your A-PRO) untill it says Control Map. Then turn the Value knob all the way to the left to select Control Map 0 (Sonar ACT Map). Also, make sure the ACT button on your A-PRO is always lit.
 
 
I havn't used the A-PRO in Effect or Utility mode yet so can't help on that, and i havn't used any of the other presets yet either because i find  the Tracks/FX/Synths/Utility 2 preset works best after you've mapped your synths.
 
If you have any problems following this guide let me know and i'll try my best to explain it better, but please bear with me because i only started using my A300PRO yesterday.
 
I hope this post wasn't unnecessarily long but i wanted it to be as indepth as possible for someone who's never used the keyboard (or ACT) before.
 
Thanks for your time.

I'm trying to reconcile this with the Cakewalk Video on YOUTUBE about configuration of midi and controllers...Just printed it out and will sit and go through it.  I'm having a real problem with having the APRO and the VS100.

Mick

bump

Great post S. Wallis.
I'm just about to order an A Pro 800 and make it my master keyboard controller. I also have a PCR 800 already mapped and working with the V700C and Sonar 8.5.3 PE that I was planning on running through the A-PRO's midi in using the midi merge switch. Have you used the A-PRO to do this yet with a second keyboard? 

I havn't used the MIDI Megre yet as my A300 is my only keyboard. There was a user on this forum who had a problem trying to do what you're describing. You might need a dc power-pack to run both keyboards (the manual mentions something about this, i think.)

Having said that, i do know what you want to do is possible because i saw a video (sorry, can't remember where) of someone using an A-PRO as a master keyboard/controller and another hardware controller for the track's volume and pan controls.

Aswell as switching midi merge on at the side panel, you may have to adjust the midi merge destination on your A-PRO.

On your A-PRO, press the ACT button and the back button at the same time to open the settings.

Turn the value knob to the right untill it reads MIDI settings, then click the value knob. Turn the knob untill it says MIDI merge destination and click the value knob again. Turn the value knob to the right to select MIDI in. Finally, click the value knob again and it's all done.

Like i said i've never used thesse settings, but if you buy the A-800 PRO, can you let me know how you got on please because i'm still trying to learn about the A-PRO. Thanks.

Like i said i've never used thesse settings, but if you buy the A-800 PRO, can you let me know how you got on please because i'm still trying to learn about the A-PRO. Thanks.

 
You got it bud. Thanks for your insight.

Hello S. Wallis
 
Thanks for your post it has helped me but one thing that puzzles me is when I open up the property page of the A300 in Sonar I can not see the "Dynamic Pad" section.  I can barely see one pad.  I reinstalled it and still have the same problem.  Have you had this problem.  Any input would be appreciated.
 
Thanks
Mark
St. Louis, MO.

No, i havn't had this problem. Have you tried resizing the window?

Yes I've tried rezing it every which way and still can not get the whole graphic to opne, very frustrating.  I sent an email to Cakewalk also.
 
thanks
Mark

chrome1955


Yes I've tried rezing it every which way and still can not get the whole graphic to opne, very frustrating.  I sent an email to Cakewalk also.
 
thanks
Mark

What's your screen resolution?

Just adding my thanks to the original poster. I recently bought an A-800 Pro, thoroughly read the manual...and felt like something was missing. Thanks for sharing your shortcuts to success. If anybody asks, Roland needs to hire S. Wallis to write their manuals.

Thanks for the kind words, Mel. I'm glad you found the guide helpful.

Thanks for this piece.

From this I have found out worthy piece of documentation I would like to share.

When you have the A-(300,500,800) Pro ACT control surface page up in Sonar up press F1 (help documentation) and this gives you documentation to the meaning and setting for the control surface page.


NOTE: The control surface page is the same page where you select the preset Tracks/FX/Synths/Utility 2 from above.
 
I am still getting a grasp of this too but the help page will accelerate the process.

Just wanted to share.

S.Wallis ... thank you for your very useful post. Much appreciated.

My A-500 now works better.

thanx = kev

Mods: Should this be a sticky?

Bump for new year.

S.Wallis


Bump for new year.

Actually, you don't need to bump if there's been a reply in the last 24 hours (unless of course you just want to get your post count up  ).
 
If a thread goes without a response for 30 days, it "falls off" the bottom.  In that case a bump makes it current and it stays visible to folks who are new to the KB subforum.

I bumped it because i couldn't see it on the forum. I think this and dmbaer's guide should be a  sticky aswel so it's always avalible for new comers, especially after the release of X1 and X-mas.

I get the feeling most people don't realize if you press F1 with the A-Pro window open, a help window pops up.  It explains a number of the things I'm seeing questions about on this forum.  Cheers!

Alex ... I appreciate your good intention in directing people to use F1 and open the manual (hands up -  I didn't know it either).

But the manual isn't really a lot of help unless you're an expert who already knows what they're doing and merely needs a reference source.

It contains no workflow instructions in the way that S.Wallis is gainfully trying to describe (thank you, SW).


In fact it's a typical manual, and insulting to most people who are as stupid as I am.

For example, I still can't get my A-500 to control the transport or the pads. And the manual isn't really a help in solving this

I'm currently pinning my hopes on X1 - which is downloading as we speak.

I just purchased the A300. This indeed is extremely informative!! Thanks so much!  YOU ARE appreciated!!

Thanks saxxxxxman.

I might write this again for X1. It will give me a change to add to it aswell, so watch this space.

Great post. I think Cakewalk sould pay you at least 200 bucks for such a great tutorial. Their A-pro manual sucks.

I must have been lucky, worked pretty much otb for me. It was a while before i realised i had to enable the A-300 editor though. 

Bump for new owners like me.

Hey S. Wallis, I'm glad to see your thread "re-appeared". That is the information I was looking for. CM 0 is the ACT Sonar Map. Great. With that setup active do you drum pads on A1 thru A8? What are your rotories controlling? Sliders?

I don't use the drum pads (A1-A8) as drum pads, i use them as control buttons. For example, this is one of my set ups:
A1 = Mute selected track
A2 = Solo selected track
A3 = Arm selected track for recording
A4 - Write enable selected track
A5 = Select previous track
A6 = Select next track
A7 = Bounce to track
A8 = Undo

Sliders 1-8 control tracks 1-8 (or the next 8 tracks if i press shift and the foward button on my A-Pro). They also control various synth and effect parameters when i press B2 (or B3) on my A-Pro. Incedently, you can set up the A1-A8 buttons differently for B1,B2,B3 and B4 (i never use b4 though). This gives so much control through your A-Pro.

For example, if you look at my list above for the drum pads, and think "i wouldn't use that set up", then you can press B2 (or B3 or B4) and create another set up. Be advised though that the B1-B4 buttons change focus - B1 focuses the tracks, and B2-B4 focuses VST instruments and Effects. My above list is when focus is on tracks (B1) and i have a seperate list for when i'm working on VSTs (B2) which keeps some things (muto, solo, arm, etc...) but add others (bounce to clip, for example).

My rotary controllers control track pan when in B1, and synth and effect parameters when in B2 or B3.

For some reason A Pro1 is not appearing in my controller/surfaces dropdown list when try to add a controller/surface. ? Trying to figure out what I missed.

The only reason i can think of is maybe the A-PRO Control Surface driver isn't installed? There's 2 seperate drivers for the A-PRO - one for the general keyboard installation, and another for use as a control surface. You can download it from here ---> http://www.cakewalk.com/S...eader.aspx/2007012938#

I've just reformatted my hard drive so had to install everything again, so i'll do another tutorial for X1 very soon.

Let me know if installing the control surface driver worked or not.

You were right on the money S. Wallis. I failed to install the Control Surface Plugin, mistaking the the Editor files for it. I installed it, it came up in add controllers/surfaces and away we went. I now have the A Pro 800, the PCR 800 and the V700C Console working together seamlessly. The PCR and A PRO also work when the V700C is selected as the control surface. This makes things much easier when practicing a part and recording it after a few runs. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. You Rock Dude!

I'm glad you're up and running, and envious of your set-up, lol.

Thanks again S. Wallis. :)

Thanks S. Wallis.
And for dummies like me, you install the plug twice; 32 bit and 64 bit, if you are running Sonar both ways.

hey Mr. S.Wallis-
 
I've been struggling for a day and a half trying to control the soft synths within X1 with my new A800-Pro. No luck until I finally found your post.  Thanks so much for taking the time to post this.  I am up and running.  I plan on using this set up live, and you just saved this old analog head-

S.Wallis


I don't use the drum pads (A1-A8) as drum pads, i use them as control buttons. For example, this is one of my set ups:
A1 = Mute selected track
A2 = Solo selected track
A3 = Arm selected track for recording
A4 - Write enable selected track
A5 = Select previous track
A6 = Select next track
A7 = Bounce to track
A8 = Undo

 

I have just recently bought an A-500 and the only thing I'm having an issue with is getting the drum pads to trigger keyboard shortcuts.

Clicking on their graphic in the control surfaces window causes the assigned shortcut to function, but once I close this window & hit a pad it stops working and produces a midi note instead.



I'm assuming I need to edit the control map in the A-Pro Editor but it only lists maps 1-19, and not 0?




And I've also noticed that my A-500 has all 4 'B' buttons permanently lit up when the ACT button is enabled.


Shouldn't only 1 be lit - i.e whatever function bank I'm currently in?

Finally fixed the above problems I was having...

Classic case of PEBKAC ( Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair  )

Didn't have the proper midi output port set in the controller / surfaces panel.

Once that was set correctly, the drum pads work fine as shortcut buttons for X1 functions.

Thanks S Wallis.  Wish you had written the manual for A Pro--- it is sadly lacking.  Love this forum!!

Thanks for this walk through SW which I have followed on trying to set up my A800 tonight - with no luck. I originally did not install the second driver and thought that was my problem but when I try to use the APRO settings suggested it blanks out the controller drop down menu - any thoughts - I see another poster on another thread had the same problem & gave up.

Oh I should say I am using Sonar LE - I was hoping it would work out of the box!

Shortly after writing the above I realised that I should have installed the 32 bit version of the control software with Sonar LE. Seems to be working now - though I imagine I will be back for more advice along the line!

Does anyone know how to split the keyboard and run 2 different soft synths.

I know I'm bumping a 3 year old thread, but the information here saved me a lot of frustration and it's still relevant for Sonar X2.  I spent a couple of hours last night trying to figure out why the A-PRO wasn't controlling transport in Sonar and figured it out in minutes after reading this post.  Wallis, you should be writing the Cakewalk manuals.  Thanks.

This definitely needs another bump....so here it is.