question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos

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2010/11/04 10:12:02 (permalink)

question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos

Hello! How to slide all TEMPOS start times EXACTLY 2 times near to starting position (earlier)

for instance, if we have
 
1:01:000 tempo1
1:03:000 tempo2
2:04:000 tempo3
etc.

we should receive:

1:01:000 tempo1
1:02:000 tempo2
1:04:480 tempo3
...

there are MANY tempos in а project (near 1000) so manually changing them is pain.. Thanks in advance!
post edited by dancing.sphinx - 2010/11/04 10:19:54
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    Re:question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos 2010/11/04 14:35:43 (permalink)
    No way to do that, AFAIK.


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    Re:question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos 2010/11/04 19:34:04 (permalink)
    This may work ... you'll have to experiment.
     
    Use Process/Length.  Check both start times and durations and specify a change factor of 200%.  I believe this will leave your tempo track unaffected.
     
    Then, use Process/Fit to Time to reduce the total length (the new length) by exactly half.
     
    If this works, please report back.
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    Re:question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos 2010/11/04 20:26:10 (permalink)
    I think I have a way...

    Go to  INSERT>Time/Measures
      You will be able to choose what slides-- check the box that says "Tempo Changes"  

    To move your tempo changes to the front,  create a dummy track with dummy data and use the "Cut" function.  Again check the "Tempo Changes" box only.

    oops  I think I misread the problem.  You want to move by a %... I'll leave my answer up anyway 
    post edited by Jimbo 88 - 2010/11/04 20:30:05
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    Re:question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos 2010/11/05 10:30:31 (permalink)

    If this works, please report back.



    No, this doesn't affect tempos starting times... All tempos (except first - 1:01:000) should be slided by factor of 2 (exactly 2 times earlier). Don't worry about notes there isn't any (yet). I care only about tempos and time signatures - they exist (and changing a lot).

    Interesting... so far there is no way to do this in Cub5 either? )
    post edited by dancing.sphinx - 2010/11/05 10:32:10
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    Re:question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos 2010/11/05 12:43:15 (permalink)
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    If this works, please report back.



    No, this doesn't affect tempos starting times... All tempos (except first - 1:01:000) should be slided by factor of 2 (exactly 2 times earlier). Don't worry about notes there isn't any (yet). I care only about tempos and time signatures - they exist (and changing a lot).

    Interesting... so far there is no way to do this in Cub5 either? )


    Add some temporary notes on a track.  Then select the tracks that exist in your project so far, and delete the second measure, asking for the hole to be deleted also.  This is based on your post which says you want all the tempos starting at measure three to now starting at measure two.  This would in effect "slide" your tempo markings.  Then erase the temporary notes.  Those were place in the project just to make it possible to delete a measure.

    But I came here with the following info--I wrote the above after seeing your new info that you don't have any notes in your project yet:

    You can cut and paste tempos.  In the Tempo View, click the button that makes the tempo list appear on the far right.  Select all the tempos in the list except the first one and cut them.   Move the cursor to the second measure, or wherever you want the first tempo change to take place, and paste in the list.

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    Re:question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos 2010/11/05 17:30:35 (permalink)
    i know i can slide tempos linearly (all with the same offset) via copy/paste but this is not the case: they should be slided to DIFFERENT values. pls, read my messages carefully :) the farer the tempo (from start) the more the offset: the very 1st tempo shouldn't be slided at all, the next - just a bit, and so on...
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    Re:question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos 2010/11/05 20:59:13 (permalink)
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    i know i can slide tempos linearly (all with the same offset) via copy/paste but this is not the case: they should be slided to DIFFERENT values. pls, read my messages carefully :) the farer the tempo (from start) the more the offset: the very 1st tempo shouldn't be slided at all, the next - just a bit, and so on...


    Well, I did try to read your message carefully, and gave it my best shot when I answered.

    I do believe that you're SOL (technical term) for what you want.

    I think it would be good to re-think the way you're working.  Tempo changes applied to tracks with actual notes, music in them are a lot easier to do then mapping out the tempo first.  I think you're working backwards in fact.  It's going to be a **** trying to play to all those changes - but then you could be inserting notes instead of playing them.  Still, much easier to Hear what the effect of your tempo changes are going to be.  There's no reason they need to be so precisely figured out before you've even started on the recording.

    I do believe.

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    Re:question for a MIDI guru - sliding tempos 2010/11/06 06:09:47 (permalink)
    Believe it or not but this is true. Btw, it's not my fault - I only trying to fix others job.... the man did a lot of work but he choose wrong tempo at the beginning (twice faster than it was actually) and made hundreds of tempo spots, that's how it looks: http://ipicture.ru/uploads/101104/Z6JKVvbR4m.png the tempos are fine in general and they sync perfectly with the tracks musical time, but they are twice faster for the educational purpose than this project should have. So instead of semi-quavers we will have quavers everywhere and so on... I can reduce all tempos twice with Prosess/Fit to Time/Tempo. But it only half of it: I also need to move starting times twice earlier to maintain sync with the audio track..

    maybe there is another way? i dunno... ^(
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