stoutlyric
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Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
I was on KVR discussing bugs with cableguys about midishaper, and he mentioned that he requested to get a copy of sonar for testing his VST's, but never heard back from cakewalk on this. He tested with the demo version until it timed out. Cakewalk can you please give Cableguys an NFR version of X1 and 8.5.3 so they can get their VST's working in Sonar. Here is the link to the comapny and to the kvr thread where Jakob talks about getting no reply from cakewalk when he asked for an NFR version. http://www.cableguys.de/ http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=319484&start=195 Thanks
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/19 21:03:06
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Not sure who Cableguys are but if they want a copy of Sonar for testing purposes, they should purchase it. It's called the cost of doing business!
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Danny Danzi
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/19 21:59:52
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From what I know of Cakewalk, they do their best to release test copies to plug makers. But they only have a certain amount they release per release. The other side of the coin is....there is someone new opening up a plug company every day that wants something for free. The same with being an artist. When we release press copies of our CD's, there are only a certain amount. We get online web sites that are created every day where someone wants to "review" our work. They get bent out of shape when you say "no" and claim they will no longer support you as an artist...pff...they never supported you anyway and aren't real fans. -Danny
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stoutlyric
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/19 22:07:12
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It's not like Cableguys is a no name shop. They have had stuff reviewed in some major magazines. At least Cakewalk could have gotten back to them letting them know what the policy is. The more plugs that work with Sonar the better off it will be as an app. With the stiff competition and pricing models out there from Reaper, FL Studio, etc. Cakewalk needs to do all they can to support VST developers.
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/19 22:42:09
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They can download the demo.
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/20 01:07:01
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stoutlyric It's not like Cableguys is a no name shop. They have had stuff reviewed in some major magazines. At least Cakewalk could have gotten back to them letting them know what the policy is. The more plugs that work with Sonar the better off it will be as an app. With the stiff competition and pricing models out there from Reaper, FL Studio, etc. Cakewalk needs to do all they can to support VST developers. And I believe they DO try to support plug makers. I work for Acme Bar Gig...we had no problems obtaining an NFR of Sonar 8.5. However, we could not get one for X1 because we were told there were none left at the time. And trust me, we have an offer Sonar won't be able to refuse with hopes of making our "HeadCase" a permanent part of Sonar. We don't even want any money for it! :) Just because you send an email doesn't mean you'll get a response. You have to be contacting the right person and it always helps to send an additional email asking if they have received your first email. Proper follow-ups are amazing in the world of business. The fact that you posted this publicly on a Sonar forum doesn't do your cause any good at all. If you don't work for Cableguys, let them do their own dirty work. I had a pretty respectable Cakewalk guy contact me with a few questions a few weeks ago. I replied back to him instantly due to the nature of his questions and our business. He never replied back to me to tell me he received my response. I waited a few days and contacted him again to see that he got it, and indeed he did. Sometimes they get busy...sometimes something comes up...sometimes a nice follow-up is the remedy without posting publicly on their forum asking/pleading or telling Cake what they SHOULD be doing. Maybe they don't like Cableguys? Or, maybe they will contact them after the holidays. You have to understand, there are important issues that need to be dealt with....someone who needs something for free that may not be super popular right now is not going to hold precedence over things that are more important. Cableguys may be in major magazines, but I've never heard of them until now and I'm pretty up to snuff with the latest plugs and manufacturers. I admire your loyalty but I definitely wouldn't have went about it this way. I'd bet that Jakob would feel the same way if you told him what you did. I know Ken McLaren would be upset with me if I posted a message like this publicly on behalf of ABG. It just doesn't look right or sound right. Just my opinion. Best of luck. -Danny
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stoutlyric
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/20 01:18:12
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Hey man, I was just trying to help Jakob out. I did let him know ahead of time in the kvr thread I was going to post here and he was ok with it. I figured it was worth a shot and maybe someone at Cakewalk would read this and help them out. I don't have any contacts at Cakewalk he could call. In the end I just want the plug ins to work in Sonar.
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/20 01:24:38
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I totally understand...and like I said, I respect your loyalty. Maybe they WILL contact him at some point...or maybe he's not contacting the right person or something. I'm just super careful with what I post on forums when it comes to anything that may be business oriented. You never know who could be upset with it, know what I mean? :) -Danny
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/20 10:08:46
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Walk softly and carry a big guitar, Danny. As the the OP, there are hundreds of effects makers, all legitimate. I imagine they all have flooded Boston w/ request. Now, whether Cake wants or needs to be tied to them is another question. Somebody has to spend time deciding who "is worthy" of getting an NFR and I doubt if they have a position paid for to make that decision. So they have a limit on their NFRs - a business decision. They probably have a list of people they work with and ones they would like to. And if you think those doesn't cost money - there is shipping. A couple of hundred NFRs would cost thousands. Even downloading them cost bandwidth and just the overhead of keeping track of them. It may seem like a no-brainer to hand out thousands of free copies but it isn't. No more than it makes sense for you to hand out thousands of free copies of your CD to anyone who comes to a show. You are just not making money, it is costing you. @
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/20 11:19:32
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dlesaux Not sure who Cableguys are but if they want a copy of Sonar for testing purposes, they should purchase it. It's called the cost of doing business! +1
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/20 11:28:38
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dlesaux Not sure who Cableguys are but if they want a copy of Sonar for testing purposes, they should purchase it. It's called the cost of doing business! I managed to get CW and ReFX talking which secured a NFR copy for ReFX a few years ago. AFAIK VST developers can be given NFR copies.
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/21 08:41:19
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Sorry for only chiming in now. Cakewalk has just contacted us, which is great. We're not very well known yet, but grow constantly. We are getting lots of emails from users who ask how to setup up Sonar with our latest effect, MidiShaper ( http://www.cableguys.de/midi-shaper.html), which allows for modulating other plugins via envelops and drawable LFOs. It gets lots of use in other hosts and we did tutorials videos on that, and would be happy to support our Sonar users too. So I guess exchanging NFRs is reasonable here. It's true that we had been a bit frustrated that we've sent out an NFR request and not gotten any reply for some time. But it might have also been due to using the wrong channel for contacting Cakewalk - we've used a contact form from the page. But it's sorted out now, Cakewalk just contacted us, so we are very thankful here.
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/21 10:33:33
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the link you posted isnt working here cable guy?
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/21 19:25:18
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FWIW, Jakob is a great guy, and Cableguys plugins are amazing! I have no dog in this hunt, other than maybe I'll be able to make better use of MIDI-Shaper... I'm kind of surprised that more people aren't aware of Cableguys... it's not like they are trying to fly under the radar! Very pleased to hear that Cakewalk and Cableguys got it sorted out - companies that start with a "C" should be friends!
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/21 19:35:35
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link not working right as the parenthesis and comma are currently a part of it- Lance
Jakob / Cableguys Sorry for only chiming in now. Cakewalk has just contacted us, which is great. We're not very well known yet, but grow constantly. We are getting lots of emails from users who ask how to setup up Sonar with our latest effect, MidiShaper (http://www.cableguys.de/midi-shaper.html), which allows for modulating other plugins via envelops and drawable LFOs. It gets lots of use in other hosts and we did tutorials videos on that, and would be happy to support our Sonar users too. So I guess exchanging NFRs is reasonable here. It's true that we had been a bit frustrated that we've sent out an NFR request and not gotten any reply for some time. But it might have also been due to using the wrong channel for contacting Cakewalk - we've used a contact form from the page. But it's sorted out now, Cakewalk just contacted us, so we are very thankful here.
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/21 22:11:08
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and Cableguys plugins are amazing They do look pretty cool... Like taking automation on steriods and packaging it into a single interface.
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/22 02:40:57
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Thanks Cakewalk for sorting this out!
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/22 05:41:14
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> Very pleased to hear that Cakewalk and Cableguys got it > sorted out - companies that start with a "C" should be > friends! Even more that we offer the free PanCake - http://www.cableguys.de/pan-cake.html PanCakewalk Bundle would be great.. So we'll sort out how to exactly set up MidiShaper with Sonar, as it seems to be a bit tricky to do and we'll post a video on this in January. We know from a user that it can be done, but some things have to be regarded (MidiShaper only on Audio track? Only on instrument track? Eh?). If you've already done it and know how to, it would be very much appreciated if you post it here! Or drop us an email to contact@cableguys.de
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/22 05:42:52
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Off-topic, but still: I wonder.. my messages are all badly formatted, and just on one line. Editing my posts gives me server errors. What to do about it?
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/22 08:25:42
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my messages are all badly formatted Are you using a newer version of Firefox?
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/22 12:03:18
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yeah, using Firefox 8 without weird addons. Linebreaks from the "Reply to message" popup are not regarded and editing a former message always gives errors.
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Re:Cakewalk please send Cableguys a copy of sonar to test with their VST's
2011/12/22 12:31:12
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ff >v4(?) is incompatible with this forum because they haven't updated the forum software, even though there's been many requests, and almost daily "where's my formatting gone" posts... has anyone tried the new ff9 yet? (i'm still on 8)
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