Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials
Author Message
Wolfenstein
  • Total Posts : 5
  • Joined: 3/16/2012
  • Status: offline
Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 16, 12 4:30 PM ( #1 )
If I decide to buy one version it will probably be Essential. But the trial you get to download and try is not Essentials. And I prefer Standard notation when editing MIDI files, just inputing it in standard notation is what feels natural to me. I also like that you can print out MIDI files in standard notation. So my question is: Is the standard noatation part any downsized in Essential compared to Producer? Also how do I view two or more tracks at the same time in the staff view?
John
  • Total Posts : 23715
  • Joined: 11/6/2003
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 16, 12 5:09 PM ( #2 )
Sorry, even though this is also the Essentials forum I don't think many on here actually have it.
Best
John
SvenArne
  • Total Posts : 2350
  • Joined: 1/31/2007
  • Location: Trondheim, Norway
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 16, 12 5:12 PM ( #3 )
I can't imagine that the modes of notation would differ between the versions...
John
  • Total Posts : 23715
  • Joined: 11/6/2003
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 16, 12 5:14 PM ( #4 )
Me either but without using it I don't know for sure. I posted primarily because no one else did.  I hate to see a post go unanswered. Even if the answer is useless to the poster. Hopefully someone that knows can give a knowledgeable answer.
Best
John
vintagevibe
  • Total Posts : 1641
  • Joined: 12/15/2003
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 16, 12 7:32 PM ( #5 )
Sonar X1 is great DAW in many ways but it's notation is years behind all other major DAWs. If you do most of your work in notation save yourself some real grief and look at Cubase, Protools or Digital Performer for Windows.
SvenArne
  • Total Posts : 2350
  • Joined: 1/31/2007
  • Location: Trondheim, Norway
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 16, 12 8:14 PM ( #6 )
John


 I posted because no one else did. 


Nice to have you back John! 
Elffin
  • Total Posts : 637
  • Joined: 2/11/2007
  • Location: Wales
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 16, 12 8:14 PM ( #7 )
vintagevibe


Sonar X1 is great DAW in many ways but it's notation is years behind all other major DAWs. If you do most of your work in notation save yourself some real grief and look at Cubase, Protools or Digital Performer for Windows.

So true...  Unfortunatley....
John
  • Total Posts : 23715
  • Joined: 11/6/2003
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 16, 12 8:23 PM ( #8 )
SvenArne


John


 I posted because no one else did. 


Nice to have you back John! 


Thanks Sven.  Good to see you.
Best
John
pbognar
  • Total Posts : 570
  • Joined: 10/3/2005
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 16, 12 10:47 PM ( #9 )
vintagevibe


Sonar X1 is great DAW in many ways but it's notation is years behind all other major DAWs. If you do most of your work in notation save yourself some real grief and look at Cubase, Protools or Digital Performer for Windows.
 
Just found out that Pro Tools MP is getting a price drop from $249 to $99.

Pro Tools MP 9 (or just "MP"):

1) Is a full version of the program
2) Has 48 audio tracks (the same that Pro Tools LE and M-Powered had)
3) Features Automatic Delay Compensation (something PT LE and M-Powered missed)
4) Runs only with M-AUDIO interfaces
 
So if you can live with 48 tracks of audio, and some of the other "limitations" of PT - it might be a nice experiment if you have a compatible M-Audio interface and $99.
noldar12
  • Total Posts : 1029
  • Joined: 7/7/2006
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 17, 12 12:44 AM ( #10 )
Still only have Sonar in terms of a DAW...

But, if you work primarily in notation, Sonar's current level of notation is simply not up to the standards of its major competitors.

Another option is to do your composing in a notation program and then input the file into a sequencer for further editing.

That does offer one workflow advantage - one concentrates first on writing, and then on honing musicality.  One is not tempted to work on the two different tasks at the same time.
Jim
Wolfenstein
  • Total Posts : 5
  • Joined: 3/16/2012
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 17, 12 5:37 AM ( #11 )
I have tried Cubase and I did not like it.
Wolfenstein
  • Total Posts : 5
  • Joined: 3/16/2012
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 22, 12 5:18 AM ( #12 )
Can anyone answer this? I am not going to buy it unless know this.
Kalle Rantaaho
  • Total Posts : 5284
  • Joined: 1/9/2006
  • Location: Finland
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 22, 12 5:34 AM ( #13 )
Try the notation of the demo. I bet it's the same as in Essentials. At least: You can be sure, that it's not worse than in Essentials! If it's sufficient to you, I'm sure you can buy Essentials. As mentioned above, it's not good enough if you do most of your work using notation.  

Finding a 100% solid answer is difficult, it seems, perhaps because SONAR's notation is not on a level sufficient for heavy users.
SONAR PE 8.5.3, Asus P5B, 2,4 Ghz Dual Core, 4 Gb RAM, GF 7300, EMU 1820, Bluetube Pre  -  Kontakt4, Ozone, Addictive Drums, PSP Mixpack2, Melda Creative Pack, Melodyne Plugin etc.
The benefit of being a middle aged amateur is the low number of years of frustration ahead of you.
SEVerstraten
  • Total Posts : 146
  • Joined: 11/22/2011
  • Location: Tilburg, Netherlands
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 22, 12 5:44 AM ( #14 )

 pbognar


Just found out that Pro Tools MP is getting a price drop from $249 to $99. 



That's a small price, and would make it worth wile to have next to Sonar X1, just for fun.
Got any link for this?



Sonar X1d Expanded
Win 7 x64 , Intel i7 2670QM, 8GB DDR3
Roland OCTA-CAPTURE, 
IK-Multimedia STOMP-IO,
KRK V4,
PCR500,
Behringer BCF2000,
M-Audio Oxygen 25 

Band Rehearsal mixes: http://snd.sc/MujTc8 





pbognar
  • Total Posts : 570
  • Joined: 10/3/2005
  • Status: offline
Re:Standard notation for MIDI in Essentials - March 25, 12 2:17 PM ( #15 )
SEVerstraten



 pbognar


Just found out that Pro Tools MP is getting a price drop from $249 to $99. 



That's a small price, and would make it worth wile to have next to Sonar X1, just for fun.
Got any link for this?
 
 
Looks like it' is shipping mid-April:
 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/avid-pro-tools-mp-9/h72104000000000


Jump to:
Current active users
There are 0 members and 1 guests.
Icon Legend and Permission
  • New Messages
  • No New Messages
  • Hot Topic w/ New Messages
  • Hot Topic w/o New Messages
  • Locked w/ New Messages
  • Locked w/o New Messages
  • Read Message
  • Post New Thread
  • Reply to message
  • Post New Poll
  • Submit Vote
  • Post reward post
  • Delete my own posts
  • Delete my own threads
  • Rate post

© 2000-2009 ASPPlayground.NET Forum Version 3.5