How to quantize multitrack audio with audiosnap

Found lots of old posts with the same problem. No real answers in any of them.
 
I went through many videos. Mostly they read what is written on the button without explaining further. No video tackles simple quantization.
 
The manual does have a section "Why would I use it" with 7 applications, but not the most obvious, how to quantize tracks. I thought "To sync an audio clip to the project tempo would be it (3 easy steps) but it just jumbles everything into a complete mess.
 
I have 38 tracks. The drummer was excellent, but over time, naturally, he drifts off the grid. But it is just a drift. He was superbly accurate.
 
I want to quantize the drum track to the average tempo, and all other tracks also.
 
One Sonar University video says you have to take out all transients on the bass drum that are not on the beat, so I did that and only left the whole note beats.
 
Hit Quantize, set to whole notes, and audiosnap does not even do THAT right! Transients did change positions, but not on the grid.
 
Does anyone know of tutorials or videos to achieve this most obvious of audiosnap tasks? 
 

You have probably already found this on your travels, but this SOS article really helped get my head around the audiosnap pool.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov11/articles/sonar-workshop-1111.htm

thanks from me, too.

I cannot find an authors name. I wonder how they managed to figure all that out.

I use another DAW for sorting out timing issues - that one has very "elastic audio warping" facilities. Till X1 gets as good as that, I wiill keep using the other DAW for audio quantizing.

A very good find Mark. I have struggled with AudioSnap features but this seems very clear.
It covers a lot of the common errors that I made with this great, but confusing, tool.

FastBikerBoy did a good job on an A/S video too.

Much appreciated, thanks. It's put some concepts into a mental framework for me.
 
Just a question: doesn't three dots in the tempo selection mean a waltz?
 

In the CAKE TV Part 1 Webinar, Seth shows in detail how to groove match with Audiosnap, if that helps any, it was right before X1d came out. Might be worth checking out. Good luck!

One thing I did notice in the article above (which is very good) they didnt discuss splitting the beats into seperate clips. I believe this really helps with the algorythms and keep the sound good on drum tracks.

I think it all starts about page 583
Heres a copy of a page I was talking about with suggested uses.

Synchronizing audio and the project tempo

There are many reasons why you may want to synchronize audio clips with the project tempo. The

following list presents a few common examples.

AudioSnap provides two ways to quickly synchronize audio and the project tempo map:

method if you want the project tempo to match an audio clip’s tempo and have audio beats

aligned with the project’s time ruler.

This is useful in the following scenarios:

• If you recorded an audio track without using the metronome, and you want the project’s

measure and beat boundaries to align with the audio. For example, you may have recorded an

audio track that you would like to use as the tempo reference when recording additional tracks.

• If you want both audio and MIDI edits to snap to audio beats.

audio beats quantized correctly.

• If you want to remix an existing song that has been imported into SONAR (from an audio CD or

MP3 file, etc.). In order to add new drum loops and MIDI instruments that play in time with the

original song, you need to create a tempo map from the original song.

follow the project tempo.

This is useful in the following scenarios:

• If you want to synchronize new audio with existing audio.

• If you want to tighten up a new audio track so it fits well with the timing and tempo of an

existing track.

• If you want to globally change the project’s tempo after audio has been recorded.

tempo to an audio clip’s tempo map” on page 588.

timidi

LJB


I use another DAW for sorting out timing issues - that one has very "elastic audio warping" facilities. Till X1 gets as good as that, I wiill keep using the other DAW for audio quantizing.

What is the other DAW LJB? Thanks.

Timidi, Let's just say if you google the words in quotation marks you'll find it amongst some of the top DAWs. Sone even claim it's the industry standard for anyone who wants professional tools :O) I just like the elasticity of its audio warping.

meant to post this in a different thread.....