Just when you thought it couldn't get scarier...

...along comes Zynaptiq
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d0IYPMrZds&feature=plcp
 
 

I reckon watching that plug-in could bring on epilepsy.

Plug-ins are great nowadays.

And "Hep-ilepsy" at the same time:-)

wow that is scary. How much?

Very, I'd say, daryl

strikinglyhandsome1


Very, I'd say, daryl

:)
 
 
- never mind I'll google it

USD 269 / EUR 269 - and then Regular Price as of June, 2012: USD 399 / EUR 399 (all prices inclusive of Sales Tax/VAT)

strikinglyhandsome1


USD 269 / EUR 269 - and then Regular Price as of June, 2012: USD 399 / EUR 399 (all prices inclusive of Sales Tax/VAT)

pretty cool but sounds expensive

ole pal,nice heads up on this,nice plug.
it looks like it does alot,ive never heard of Zynaptiq.
maybe im living under a rock,i dont know.
but that was an awesome demonstration.

and on top of it,my kid is going to have nightmares cause he saw it too.

For audio restorers and remixers this is gonna be a dream come true. With this, melodyne, iris and rx your options are almost limitless.

 Hold the phone, isn't this Mac only? I found a demo but not for Windows.
 
http://www.zynaptiq.com/unveil/downloads/

VST and AAX formats for both Mac and Windows PC are planned but without ETA so far.

I must be totally out of sync with the world now. I liked some of the "before" examples better. 

bitflipper


I must be totally out of sync with the world now. I liked some of the "before" examples better. 

Me too.

Although I liked some of the after ones too, and for that matter some of the 'removed' material.

Interesting plug.

strikinglyhandsome1


VST and AAX formats for both Mac and Windows PC are planned but without ETA so far.

 Thanks, I'll probably have to eat Ramon noodles for a month but I'm pretty sure I need that. Hope they have a Windows demo in the near future.

ohgrant

strikinglyhandsome1


VST and AAX formats for both Mac and Windows PC are planned but without ETA so far.

 Thanks, I'll probably have to eat Ramon noodles for a month but I'm pretty sure I need that. Hope they have a Windows demo in the near future.

mmm Ramon noodles, I could get a taste for those too.

 Great with sliced hotdogs and some cheese. Serious hearty vitals mm.mmm

Being po' folk, I'll have to make do with my existing reverb-remover: the trim slider on the reverb bus.

Not sure if I'm on sound ground, but I'm thinking if used in a subtle way it might be very effective at removing unwanted room sound. Possibly more useful restoring poorly recorded basement tapes. Maybe wishful thinking but I'm wondering if it can enhance a less than perfect acoustic environment for recording?
Possibly a hair brained notion I get them from time to time

Ahhh that's pretty cool? But why not just use less reverb?

Er...this is NOT for controlling reverb in unfinished, as yet mastered mixes.  This is for removing, mitigating and controlling ambience and reverb in ALREADY finished and printed mixes.  This is for taking any stereo mix of any record from the past (yours or anyone elses) and removing, mitigating or controlling the already mixed in reverb.   This, like Melodyne's DNA, is the devils work (buwaha!!!) not some doofusey tool for "turning down your reverb" when mixing  your latest magnum opus.  But I'm sure you understand that.

If it's not for doofuses (like me) why did you post it here?

This is more entertaining than reading the morning comic strip. I don't even subscribe to any newspaper now since I've come here.

bapu


If it's not for doofuses (like me) why did you post it here?

Because you'll have to have one anyway, no?

Will just one do? What about backup in case that one breaks?

Good thinking, I bet the Bouy can hook us up with some kind of extended protection program like WUP..No?

He'll jump at the chance I'm sure.

What's the big deal? 
It's just a transient shaper like the TS-64 Transient Shaper which comes with Sonar.
  http://www.cakewalk.com/P...TS-64-Transient-Shaper

It is NOT just a transient shaper as TheSteven has incorrectly stated. It is way more than that. It might sound a bit like that as after pulling excessive reverb out from say drum stems etc then the transients might become clearer. A transient shaper will not lower reverb no matter what you do.

This is very interesting plugin. There is something similar in 'The Masterpiece' here from the guys at Legendary Audio:

http://www.legendaryaudio.com/

This is probably the best mastering processor in the world but it is only a matter of time before all the stages of it are modeled perfectly. You can lower total reverb in mixes that a little too wet but this comes at a serious price.

This plugin (Zynpatiq) is just another fine example of how complex and powerful digital plugins can be.

I have got some incredible samples for Kurzweil K2000 of a Russian orchestra on a CD ROM. They are all amazing except they are all recorded in a situation that is just a little too wet for my liking reverb wise and I have not been able to use them (a lot) as a result. Now this plugin could change all that and allow me to get in there and make things sound closer and a little less reverberated. Amazing!

> A transient shaper will not lower reverb no matter what you do.
You must be thinking of something else because a transient shaper, and in this case the TS-64, definitely can do that.


From Electronic Musician  http://www.emusician.com/article/137333  review of the TS-64

My own projects often suffer from drum tracks that are too wet or washed in reverb. In those instances, I find myself nudging the Attack knob toward Fast, the Weight knob toward Thin, and the Decay knob toward Dry. The mush goes away immediately, and I'm left with drum tracks that stand out clearly in the mix.

>This is probably the best mastering processor in the world
Common. Really?  In my experience these things may work on an individual track or instrument but are worthless if you try to apply them to a whole mix unless the mix is extremely sparse.
So sorry, no.  IMHO as a mastering tool the Slate Digital FG-X Virtual Mastering Processor kicks this thing's butt and cost less.


Maybe the Zynatiq can do a better job with a particular feature or function than the TS-64, but I'd sure want to do a side-by-side comparison before laying down my money.
I actually think it would be great if the Zynatiq was a significant improvement on the TS-64's - but I've seen nothing so far to show that. 

Edit:
The Zynatiq does have an 'inverse' button that the TS-64 lacks.

OK, interesting that a transient shaper could be used to appear to tame reverb but it would only apply to very percussive sounds I bet. Because what it would be doing is cutting the gain straight after a transient and in that situation it might work and sound similar. The quote you posted mentioned drum stems only, the transient shaper would not lower reverb over a whole mix, big difference.

But this plugin is doing something far different form that. It would be smart enough to know the difference between the direct sounds and the reverb sounds and lower one without lowering the other. So say you had some strings playing slowly but in a wet environment this plugin would probably have the skills to cut the reverb whereas your transient shaper concept would not. Hence the reason it is not cheap as well.

The Masterpiece is not something you use on individual tracks, (although you could I am sure) it is something you use over a whole mix and yes it can lower overall reverb of a whole mix. Hard to believe I know and it's all analog too which is even more amazing. It would still certainly stand up as one serious mastering device but I agree with you it is way too expensive ($14,400 for the full version with everything!) and much more can be had for that sort of money outlay including many plugins now that could go a long way to emulating perfectly many of the processors inside that unit. (it is all NEVE stuff BTW)

Unveil is MAC only at this stage but if you have got a Mac you might be able to trial a demo. Not sure how you would go comparing that to the Sonar transient shaper. Read the website in full describing it (Unveil) and you will get a better idea of what it does. Dereverberation and Signal Focus are the words they use. Pitchmap looks pretty cool too!

Another application I thought of where it might be really helpful is you might have track that you have recorded in a slightly live room. eg an acoustic guitar part. At the time you might have thought it was OK and you did not bother to record the closeup sound of the guitar. Later in the mix you might not like the sound of the ambience around it. Then you could use the plugin to remove the unwanted ambience and then use a nice convolution reverb with a much nicer and tighter space to replace the previous ambience and you would still have lots of control of the new ambience on top of that. Cool!

If I recall correctly Cakewalk has videos of using the TS-64 with rhythm guitars, keyboards, etc.. Regardless, it will be interesting to see what Unveil can do once they release a PC version.

If Unveil can remove embedded ambiance (for example reverb on a vocal during the singing) as opposed to reverb tails then I will definitely be impressed.