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2004/10/13 11:29:07 (permalink)

Alesis QS-7 Display woes

Anyone have experience buying/replacing the LED display module on an
Alesis QS-7 synth? Mine is on its way out fo' sho'. Half the time it is blank
and the other half it spells out dirty words and insults me..
Thanks All.

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/13 11:47:19 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Vuzz13

    ... the other half it spells out dirty words and insults me..
    Thanks All.


    I'd call that a feature, wish mine would do that... The only synth I can get to talk dirty to me is my old Akai AX-80. But if you must get it fixed I would suggest sending it to an authorized service center, might be more then just the display. Might also be able to get by without it if you had software to control it like QSEdit.
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/14 05:42:36 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Vuzz13

    Anyone have experience buying/replacing the LED display module on an
    Alesis QS-7 synth? Mine is on its way out fo' sho'. Half the time it is blank
    and the other half it spells out dirty words and insults me..
    Thanks All.



    I've got an original QS6, and the display on mine gave out about two years ago. It displays random gibberish... random characters that for some amusing reason scroll one character to the right with every MIDI event, so at the very least I have an indicator that it's receiving MIDI data.

    I brought it to a repair guy, who after (apparently) contacting Alesis when he was stumped, announced it would take nothing short of a complete motherboard replacement. At prices two years ago, I could have bought a whole new '6.

    Soooooooo.... if you do happen to discover anything, do let me know. I'd chuck the 6 but I'm still in love with all it's organ and drum sounds, and use them frequently.

    kevin at forkboy dot net
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/14 09:59:14 (permalink)
    Thanks for the intel Ohhey and Forkboy........I can get a module from Alesis for
    around 60 bucks I think......I plan to open up the QS tonight and check out the
    job of changing out the module. Can't be too hard right? (famous last words!)
    I will keep ya posted as I blow up my studio....

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/14 13:36:47 (permalink)
    If the LCD replacement doesn't pan out you could always improvise with the QS Studioware panel or the QS Patch app that are out on the web.

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/14 13:49:45 (permalink)
    I just remembered that at the time I was looking to fix my QS, the repair guy also told me that Alesis was on the brink of bankruptcy, that they were probably going to sell off their whole keyboard line if not discontinue it outright, so I shouldn't plan on any help from Alesis at all, seeing as how they were about to go the way of the Titanic.

    Please let me know how the screen transplant goes... 60 bux might be worth getting my 6 back to full functionality.

    Thanks!
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/14 13:51:11 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Stich

    If the LCD replacement doesn't pan out you could always improvise with the QS Studioware panel or the QS Patch app that are out on the web.

    Stich


    This is a good point... I never gig with my QS; it just sits quietly in the corner with the dust cover on. I've got the instrument definitions loaded into Sonar, so I never have to see the screen on the QS.
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/15 12:00:20 (permalink)
    This sounds like a problem with the QS series because I had the same problems with the QSR module and I saw a QS6 at a local music store that sells used equipment that the same issue. I have a DM5 drum module and it also has this same problem. (Maybe that's why I haven't bought anything else from them in quite a while). I'm not in the market to replace the drum module so using the instrument definitions sounds like the way to go!!!

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/15 12:16:57 (permalink)
    I have an old QS-8 and have had no problems with the display. However, it has seen studio use only and has not been "roaded".
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/15 14:19:23 (permalink)
    Mmmm....

    That sounds that alesis uses Faulty LCD displays....if im right they use serial inteligent LCD.....the mainboard of the keyboard or module send by serial data what to diplay....you can replzae that with another same line caracter LCD....
    if you can take apart that LCD please look at thit close it...if they have a small chip or round glued like chip...that is the LSI chip that have the serial port and logic to diplay characters also gives the refresh clockt to the lcd....

    old time untis have DUMB lcd diplays, the board have dicrete IC to manage LCD refresh and to make the interface works...
    if you can take a close up of the tear apart LCD form front and behind and post it here so i can take a look and advice what kind it is...and maybe we can look for a replacement on the WEB.... if it is a SMart lcd...there are plenty of them on the web...

    you can found a lot of stuff at
    www.mouser.com
    www.digikey.com
    www.dalco.com

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/15 16:28:45 (permalink)
    I am holding in my hand the credit card sized module with the lcd display box soldered to it. Now I get now characters, just a nice green glow. Looks like a pretty simple fix,and my ordered part from Alesis should arrive next week.
    I will let ya know how the saga continues. Man, if Radio Shack only carried this, I would be made in the shade for about 12 bucks I bet....
    And another thing, the keyboard still works great, so I didn't blow up anything
    yet! But hey, it's early....

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/17 19:12:49 (permalink)
    Hummm... that reminds me I wonder if I should replace the backup battery in my 1987 Akai AX-80 synth.. it has been a while. The manual says it's good for 7 years...
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/18 10:31:33 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Vuzz13

    I am holding in my hand the credit card sized module with the lcd display box soldered to it. Now I get now characters, just a nice green glow. Looks like a pretty simple fix,and my ordered part from Alesis should arrive next week.
    I will let ya know how the saga continues. Man, if Radio Shack only carried this, I would be made in the shade for about 12 bucks I bet....
    And another thing, the keyboard still works great, so I didn't blow up anything
    yet! But hey, it's early....


    Can you post a pic of the board form the front and underneath....
    also part numberi can yhelp you find a replacement
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/18 14:37:39 (permalink)
    OhHey I hear ya, I am thinking about replacing the battery too, but of course they had to make it difficult and solder the damn thing in..DOH!
    Rolo95, besides you having an avatar which I have as a poster right in front of me, (Daisy, Daisy)
    I am living in the dark ages where camera film is still used. I will get some specs though, and I truly appreciate all the help and expertise of my comrades here.

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/20 12:47:34 (permalink)
    Lol

    HAL 9000
    do you ? LOL

    Ok stay tuned....anyway ask for a friend or neighbor that have a digicam
    so you can post that....

    i love to help finding a replcement or similar part that can work
    i need to take a peek of the piece...!!!!!
    Greets!!!!
    ORIGINAL: Vuzz13

    OhHey I hear ya, I am thinking about replacing the battery too, but of course they had to make it difficult and solder the damn thing in..DOH!
    Rolo95, besides you having an avatar which I have as a poster right in front of me, (Daisy, Daisy)
    I am living in the dark ages where camera film is still used. I will get some specs though, and I truly appreciate all the help and expertise of my comrades here.

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/20 14:34:40 (permalink)
    I understand rolo95......but I cannot do that at the moment.....
    wait a minute....wait a minute.....I project a 66% chance of failure if I ask
    spouse for money to buy a digital camera. Will explore alternate borrowing
    strategies. Stand by.....

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/20 17:42:21 (permalink)
    Glad to see this thread is still going, as I've been curious...

    I hereby volunteer to crack open my QS6 and take pics of the keyboard guts in question. I've got a digital camera, but I won't get home from work for another hour or so, so stay tuned.
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/20 21:41:30 (permalink)
    Huzzah! Here's the pics.

    All of these pics are as high-res as my cam would allow (which is a measly 2 megapixels), at 1600 x 1200. They weigh in at 1 Mb to 1.5 Mb. I wanted to make sure you could get all the details.

    The screen itself measures approx. 2 3/4" by 1 3/4" outside.

    Guts of the beast

    Back of LCD, installed

    Back of LCD, removed

    Front of LCD, removed


    So...... can this be replaced? Anyone? Bueller?
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/20 21:42:32 (permalink)
    God Bless ya Forkboy for supporting the team! I will report back as Alesis has assured me my part ( the LCD Module ) will arrive thursday. Just connect reibbon cable and go....I hope...gulp....

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/21 10:59:11 (permalink)
    Excelent!!!!
    Fork let me take a peek at those pics
    you put!!!

    Im anxious!!!!!
    hehehe
    Greets
    BRB!!!!


    ORIGINAL: Forkboy

    Huzzah! Here's the pics.

    All of these pics are as high-res as my cam would allow (which is a measly 2 megapixels), at 1600 x 1200. They weigh in at 1 Mb to 1.5 Mb. I wanted to make sure you could get all the details.

    The screen itself measures approx. 2 3/4" by 1 3/4" outside.

    Guts of the beast

    Back of LCD, installed

    Back of LCD, removed

    Front of LCD, removed


    So...... can this be replaced? Anyone? Bueller?

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/21 11:09:35 (permalink)
    Fork...

    how many wires are in the ribbon cable that gets in the LCD
    and can you peel a little the paper stamp that have the bunch of numbers
    to see what the word is " DATA VISI...."

    and last is there a header when the ribbon conects to the LCD,,, or a HARD wired (soldered) if you can take a pic ot that it would be WELCOME

    One thing here it looks that the LCD is SMART...hence the round GLUED black chip...inside the EPOXY is a chip that controls (decodes) the data comming from the KEyboard mainboard.... but it seems that are PARALLEL not serial as the ribbon is like 8 bits wide....

    Waiting for your response Fork.....
    Stand bY........

    ORIGINAL: Forkboy

    Huzzah! Here's the pics.

    All of these pics are as high-res as my cam would allow (which is a measly 2 megapixels), at 1600 x 1200. They weigh in at 1 Mb to 1.5 Mb. I wanted to make sure you could get all the details.

    The screen itself measures approx. 2 3/4" by 1 3/4" outside.

    Guts of the beast

    Back of LCD, installed

    Back of LCD, removed

    Front of LCD, removed


    So...... can this be replaced? Anyone? Bueller?

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/21 11:15:33 (permalink)
    mmmm....
    i think the word is
    DATA VISION

    brb....
    searching....

    it is 16x2
    16 charactes by 2 lines ?

    brb

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/21 11:26:46 (permalink)
    FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!

    2 replacements
    ...guess what...
    the number 16235
    in the paper tag that is printed on a dot matrix printer
    is the actual model number

    and yes it is parallel....unlike other smart modules that are serial....
    more...... one company offers diferent colors...than the stock green
    i love the blue baclight with white letters...so you can have an QS synth that
    nobody has with blue LCD or ORANGE or red....
    BRB....


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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/21 12:06:48 (permalink)
    here its the links

    www.tfsc.com/pdf/TFSDV16235-1.pdf
    www.pacificdisplay.com/cdm/CDM-16235.pdf

    at pacific display you can customize your module....
    for different colors...
    www.pacificdisplay.com/char_lcd.htm

    Well!!!
    if need a replacement here it is....
    also works dor similar units...that have LCDs....
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/21 12:57:48 (permalink)
    Holy cow!!! Rolo, you are my new hero. Nice work! I hereby offer you, as a token of my gratitude, my firstborn.

    I guess my only question is this: my display shows nothing now, but still lights up... before, it did show characters, just incorrect ones. It would show actual letters and symbols, just at random, which led me to believe originally that the LCD was working fine, it was just being fed bad data by the motherboard.

    Am I wrong in this? Could the LCD unit itself be the source of the gibberish, even though it's being fed correct data?

    And you better believe that I'm ordering a better color. I'd be the only kid on my block with a tricked-out QS6. All I need now is a Honda "Type-R" sticker.
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/21 13:05:47 (permalink)
    Fork

    it depends on 2 things...that the LCD of yours is damaged.....or
    that the mainboard of the QS alesis...is damaged and sends nothing or giberish...

    so the only way to know is to look with friends that have a QS sinth and swap the part..... if dont work on a working QS your lcd is faulty...
    on th eother hand if it works....its always sign that the mainboard is not sending correct data to the LCD or not sending data at all...
    in that case you need a mainboard replacement...

    but taking in case....that the QS is still operating...just no LCD....
    i think is not the QS mainboard.
    Greets


    ORIGINAL: Forkboy

    Holy cow!!! Rolo, you are my new hero. Nice work! I hereby offer you, as a token of my gratitude, my firstborn.

    I guess my only question is this: my display shows nothing now, but still lights up... before, it did show characters, just incorrect ones. It would show actual letters and symbols, just at random, which led me to believe originally that the LCD was working fine, it was just being fed bad data by the motherboard.

    Am I wrong in this? Could the LCD unit itself be the source of the gibberish, even though it's being fed correct data?

    And you better believe that I'm ordering a better color. I'd be the only kid on my block with a tricked-out QS6. All I need now is a Honda "Type-R" sticker.

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/21 15:07:08 (permalink)
    Outstanding work comrades! Now this is an example of a forum kickin'
    ass and getting stuff done! I am very impressed with the info brought to the table. But like I said, if this part has an actuall cost ofonly about 3 dollars, I will be upset. Think of all the beer I could have bought....

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/21 15:55:39 (permalink)
    hehehe

    Any time Vuzz

    by the way thats the soul of the forums
    help each other!!!!!!!

    ORIGINAL: Vuzz13

    Outstanding work comrades! Now this is an example of a forum kickin'
    ass and getting stuff done! I am very impressed with the info brought to the table. But like I said, if this part has an actuall cost ofonly about 3 dollars, I will be upset. Think of all the beer I could have bought....

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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/23 10:17:36 (permalink)
    Hey all. I can report that all is now well with the LCD replacement. A really easy fix that ya can do in no time. One thing is that the newer LCD board as shown by Forkboy is larger than the originals, but all ya have to do is remove a bracket and you are good to go! Now off to record a platinum hit....
    Be seeing you.
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    RE: Alesis QS-7 Display woes 2004/10/23 13:09:00 (permalink)
    Hey Vuzz, thanks for the update.

    So you ordered the new LCD direct from Alesis, and it was about $60?

    I'm still looking at the links that rolo posted to see if any of those companies will sell a single screen to a regular joe.
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