X1\X2 TH2\POD Farm Latency

First off let me say that I am thrilled with X2 so far. I could nitpick (Colors, dialogs sometimes pop up on the 2nd monitor even though I opened and closed them on the first monitor, little annoyances like that) but I have had no crashes and I have had no dropouts where I did with the same project with X1. I still have more testing with my system on that though but so far so good. The install took only a few minutes (Got the email while at work and logged in remote and kicked off the downloads so they were waiting when I got home).
 
The one problem I was hoping I would have less of with X2 is latency with either POD Farm or with TH2 (I bought the full version and love it so far). Note that I have the same delay with either one. Notes are like a whole step behind or like a delay. If I go in and change audio settings they are fine until I start the song playing and then the delay kicks in.
 
I have tried ASIO and WDM drivers as well as buffer settings, using ASIO reported latency, manual offset, and changed the buffer settings in my Presonus Firestudio. But so far I have not hit on settings that work consistently and this really is a big problem for me. The obvious solution which is not convenient for me is to use an external process and run direct or mic and amp (I also have a POD XL and other processors but want to have the flexibility of TH2 with X2).
 
So can someone recommend some settings that work. ONe other positive is that before if I used WDM drivers with my setup I would have lots of dropouts with X1. With X2 WDM seems to be working fine but so does ASIO so I am open to the best solution.
 
Thanks!

this is a great thing to know.
guess there are some things i had no idea about...lol

thank you for sharing that.

Great! What I meant by "won't work perfectly" is that those plugs react ahead of time to things that are about to happen (hope that makes sense).  They can't do that when you have the "PDC" button enabled.  Once you're done tracking you should turn that button off so that they can do all their special magical stuff :).

OK... I'm having the same huge latency delay in TH2 as Vette... (It's so bad, I can't play along with the track.)   I'll try the fix and report back.

As Bill indicated, the latency isn't due to the TH2. Its due to having another plugin that has delay on one of your buses downstream. When you have such plugins, SONAR has to delay all tracks feeding that bus to align the audio (i.e. delay compensation).

The PDC override button is a useful way to get rid of latency induced by SONAR's delay compensation. However keep in mind that this is bypassing PDC, so if you record with the PDC override engaged you may need to nudge your recorded clips to put them back in sync with the other tracks when you turn on delay compensation again.
Another way to avoid delay while tracking is to only activate PDC plugins after the tracking process.

The one problem I was hoping I would have less of with X2 is latency with either POD Farm or with TH2 (I bought the full version and love it so far). Note that I have the same delay with either one. Notes are like a whole step behind or like a delay. If I go in and change audio settings they are fine until I start the song playing and then the delay kicks in.

Latency comes from two sources:

• Your audio interface's ASIO buffer size
• Latent plugins (convolution, "mastering", and linear-phase plugins are typically latent)

Note that do to Automatic Plugin Delay Compensation, if you insert a latent plugin anywhere in the project (doesn't have to be on the Guitar track), *all* other audio will be delayed to maintain sync.

Good rule of thumb is to avoid latent plugins while tracking.
There's also a global PDC bypass on the Control Bar (can be used to bypass PDC while tracking). 


Edit:
Had browser open... didn't realize you had already gotten responses/help.  

Gee you've had your browser open an awful long time.

Touche'... (didn't pay attention to the date and for whatever reason didn't initially see the responses)

Hey... shouldn't you be busy complaining about Sonar?   
Just kidding...   

Jim Roseberry

Gee you've had your browser open an awful long time.

Touche'... (didn't pay attention to the date and for whatever reason didn't initially see the responses)

Hey... shouldn't you be busy complaining about Sonar?   
Just kidding...   

Yeah, well, we all need a break from our daily routine once in a while.