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Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users

Interesting article ....says there is enough power desktop users that desktops are here to stay...... But only 10 percent of us will use them



http://www.forbes.com/sites/oreillymedia/2012/06/20/the-future-of-desktop-computing-yes-there-is-one/


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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 01:56:37 (permalink)
    Guess I'm a 10% er :) .  I much prefer my desktop in the studio.

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 02:13:45 (permalink)
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    Guess I'm a 10% er :) .  I much prefer my desktop in the studio.

    I'm thinking that a large portion of that 10% will be guys and gals like us.
     
    I'm keeping mine if for no other reason than I tend to lose anything smaller than the size of a tower.

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 03:00:41 (permalink)
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    Guess I'm a 10% er :) .  I much prefer my desktop in the studio.

    I'm thinking that a large portion of that 10% will be guys and gals like us.
     
    I'm keeping mine if for no other reason than I tend to lose anything smaller than the size of a tower.

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 03:18:09 (permalink)
    Don't understand...if there's no desktop, where am I going to put my computer?

     
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 03:40:23 (permalink)
    That 10% also includes laptops!

    I certainly see myself as being one of the 10%. Of course the big problem will be with a smaller user base the costs will rise accordingly and we may be priced out of future hardware and software advances.

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 03:46:35 (permalink)
    Oh I'm definitely going to be using desktops for the foreseeable future!  More than one (if I can afford it).

     
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 04:01:40 (permalink)
    10 per center here, and probably will be for the foreseeable future.

    Problem is, when you get to my age, that "foreseeable" is getting shorter.

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 11:27:28 (permalink)
    You have to wonder how such predictions are made. Does someone take a ruler and extend a chart of some existing trend? By that method, you'd have confidently predicted in 1973 that by now every person on the planet would be listening to 8-tracks.

    I do not own a smart phone, but my wife does. I hate her phone, but she loves it and is as attached to it as any toddler to a teddy bear. Diff'rent strokes.

    For me, the promise of all the computing power you need in your shirt pocket is being oversold. Does anybody really watch football on a 3.5" screen like they show in the TV commercials?
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 11:51:49 (permalink)
    I prefer desktop (do towers count as "desktops").  I build my own PCs and hand-pick most of the components that are appropriate for the job I want to do with the PC.  There's also more flexibility in configuring a desktop.  

    Laptops, etc. are certainly convenient.  I don't have one, but I'm not against getting one.  I just haven't needed one.  I'm not a fan of touch pads and trackballs.  If I'm going to connect a mouse and keyboard, I might as well have a desktop.  

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 16:02:07 (permalink)
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    You have to wonder how such predictions are made. Does someone take a ruler and extend a chart of some existing trend? By that method, you'd have confidently predicted in 1973 that by now every person on the planet would be listening to 8-tracks.

    I do not own a smart phone, but my wife does. I hate her phone, but she loves it and is as attached to it as any toddler to a teddy bear. Diff'rent strokes.

    For me, the promise of all the computing power you need in your shirt pocket is being oversold. Does anybody really watch football on a 3.5" screen like they show in the TV commercials?


    Nothing has irritated me more than letting the movie industry dictate where monitor sizes go.  Wide and flat is horrible for doing work on.  I've been clinging on to my two nice 3x4 aspect monitors dreading the day I'll have to get one made only for widescreen movies (which I would never want to watch on a small screen anyway).  My current monitors swivel so I can use them in portrait mode too.

     
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 17:28:11 (permalink)
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    You have to wonder how such predictions are made. Does someone take a ruler and extend a chart of some existing trend? By that method, you'd have confidently predicted in 1973 that by now every person on the planet would be listening to 8-tracks.

    I do not own a smart phone, but my wife does. I hate her phone, but she loves it and is as attached to it as any toddler to a teddy bear. Diff'rent strokes.

    For me, the promise of all the computing power you need in your shirt pocket is being oversold. Does anybody really watch football on a 3.5" screen like they show in the TV commercials?

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    The only comment I have about the whole forbes predicting the future and all that of who will own what and when is .....




    When I walk into the local best buy the Desktop sections computers is smaller than it used to be 




    Not that that tid bit can predict anything or means anything ....just an observation 

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 17:31:19 (permalink)
    Oh ... And 20 years ago ahem you bought a 16 track reel to reel ....did we use it until it broke ? Or until the newest model came out the following year


    The feeling I get is some people in the DAW world are saying screw it ....what I have works .... I'll wait until it dont 


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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 18:42:48 (permalink)



    I've been clinging on to my two nice 3x4 aspect monitors dreading the day I'll have to get one made only for widescreen movies


    Been shopping for a CRT monitor lately? Tried calibrating a less-than-unaffordable LCD monitor for color and brightness for use in photo work? When the market moves it really doesn't give a s**t about what it leaves behind. 


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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 20:01:56 (permalink)
    I was afraid of this. I am also concerned that desktop (DAW) computing power will suffer or become much more expensive also(and more redundant). I am glad that things hae gotten as good as they have... the future is not with producers, it is with watchers/listeners (thank God for gamers or we would probably be SOL. Tablets coming on, computers falling off... get 'em while you can.

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 21:33:49 (permalink)
    I think this is absolute bull. Go back in history and look at every "this is the future of technology" type article/book and it's a complete joke. I think I still have a "Future TV" book from the 70's at home, which predicts what people's homes will look like in the year 2000. Of course everyone's wearing a silver one-piece jump suit with a diagonal stripe, and all TV's have a printer built in so that mom can press a button and have the recipe printed out when she's watching her cookery shows. 

    The fact is that people like to sit at desks and look at vertical screens. If I sit looking down at a tablet for any longer than 20 minutes I get a stiff neck. So people will still, by and large, have monitors like we do now for their extended computer sessions. But of course the prediction is that everything will be touch screen. Except that reaching over a desk to touch a screen is a pain in the arse when you can just move a pointer around with a mouse, with far more accuracy and finesse. 

    The future popularity of tablets will be curtailed by several inescapable physical facts:

    1) People prefer to look straight ahead rather than up or down
    2) People prefer a little distance between eye and screen, which means text can only be so small, etc. 
    3) Most everyone prefers typing on a real keyboard to a touch screen
    4) Fingers are a certain size, which means all-touch software will be constrained by the necessity of having to keep icons and buttons over a certain size, which coupled with the fact that tablet screens are much smaller, means tablet software will always be limited when compared to desktop software
    5) Photography is a major part of everyone's lives now. Any kind of visual/design activities are better on a larger screen


    I wouldn't mind if they just said that tablets are going to become more and more popular as alternative devices. Or even that there will be a considerable number of people who ditch computers for them. But 90%....it just seems like such a ridiculous figure. Not buying it at all.
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 22:56:55 (permalink)
    The future popularity of tablets will be curtailed by several inescapable physical facts: 1) People prefer to look straight ahead rather than up or down 2) People prefer a little distance between eye and screen, which means text can only be so small, etc.  3) Most everyone prefers typing on a real keyboard to a touch screen 4) Fingers are a certain size, which means all-touch software will be constrained by the necessity of having to keep icons and buttons over a certain size, which coupled with the fact that tablet screens are much smaller, means tablet software will always be limited when compared to desktop software 5) Photography is a major part of everyone's lives now. Any kind of visual/design activities are better on a larger screen



    All very true. But can you say d o c k i n g  s t a t i o n. For most users the size of the box that holds the CPU is more or less irrelevant. A smaller box is easier to move around, take home to work late etc. Many laptop users plug in to a full size screen and keyboard at the office, but they have as little interest in the components in the box as they do in the insides of a toaster or television. And even gamers will soon have more power in an off-the-shelf laptop than they can use. Hand built computers may well become like hand built automobiles, a hobby for the dedicated enthusiast, and a collectors item for the wealthy. 
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 23:36:08 (permalink)
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    Many laptop users plug in to a full size screen and keyboard at the office,  
    My situation at this very second, except my laptop is driving two moitors, a 24" and a 22", but I had failed to consider a mobile device in such a docking station, given sufficient power in the mobile device (we are no where near that point yet but...), add some external disk storage and you could end up with a viable system. Roland's new Duo-Capture audio interface is iPad compatable.
     
    Without the docking station I find the laptop awkward, I would hate to have to do anything much on a tablet. I cringe when I here people in my company saying it would be great to replace laptops with iPads.


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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/29 23:43:47 (permalink)
    I made the mistake of getting a tablet instead of a laptop.  When it's not being constantly cleaned of finger marks, it's somewhat good for reading PDF files and viewing training videos.  I've played a few games on it, but they're all far below what's available for a normal PC, and mine is destined to be a cool remote for my music manager (I'm testing this app for the programmer in Norway right now).  I might use it for a photo slide show too, except that the screen is relatively small...

     
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/30 00:13:39 (permalink)
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    I made the mistake of getting a tablet instead of a laptop.  When it's not being constantly cleaned of finger marks, it's somewhat good for reading PDF files and viewing training videos.  I've played a few games on it, but they're all far below what's available for a normal PC, and mine is destined to be a cool remote for my music manager (I'm testing this app for the programmer in Norway right now).  I might use it for a photo slide show too, except that the screen is relatively small...

    come on, tablets are not meant to replace laptops. They serve different purpose in the band. Do keyboards replaces guitars for instance? no!
    they complements them. Same with tablets which I have a few different sizes. They are perfect for airline travels for instance or as go to bed 
    computer when you're lonely etc etc. 

    Regarding article they have a point, let face it (non pan intended), most people's activities these days are within browsers.
    Advanced users like programmer, designers, musicians use desktops apps in addition to browsers.  As a software architect and manager
    I see this trend since few years. Less and less desktop development projects each year are approved. Common User Interface slowly becomes 
    internet browser hosting different apps. You may not like the truth but service oriented architecture in cloud computing is inevitable.
    To be honest personally I still prefer old fashion desktop apps.
       


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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/30 02:10:17 (permalink)
    I almost got a tablet but then I realized that virtually everything I need to do on the go, I can do on my iPhone. The dot pitch is small enough that everything is sharp and clear and doesn't strain my eyes. I almost bought a Kindle too, before realizing that reading books on the iPhone Kindle app is perfectly satisfactory. 

    I'm all about carrying as few devices as possible. I remember about 5 or 6 years ago before I was bitten by the smartphone bug, I used to carry a phone AND one of those horrible HP iPaq things (with the flip screen cover and the stylus) that you could only connect via Wi-Fi. Boy what a crock that was. 
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/30 15:49:49 (permalink)
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    I almost got a tablet but then I realized that virtually everything I need to do on the go, I can do on my iPhone. The dot pitch is small enough that everything is sharp and clear and doesn't strain my eyes. I almost bought a Kindle too, before realizing that reading books on the iPhone Kindle app is perfectly satisfactory. 

    FYI, iPhone is a small tablet.
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/30 16:00:30 (permalink)
    The only thing that matters is what the companies can make money on... at the end of the day it will all be market driven.

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/30 17:32:45 (permalink)
    Remember when voice activation and talking computers were touted as the Next Big Thing? 

    Some geek in my office set it up so he could open programs and stuff by voice commands, and the computer would respond with "yes, master". That lasted less than a day, until everyone else in the office threatened to stomp on his microphone headset if he didn't shut his computer the f*ck up.

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    Case in point: 99% of computer users do not need 64-bit computing. In fact, most of what users do on a computer (email, web surfing, games) don't even need a 32-bit instruction set. But here we are, good consumers that we've been trained to be, tossing out perfectly functional products and re-purchasing new equivalents, only to repeat the process again in a year or two. The brainwashing works so well that some indoctrinees have been known to endlessly parrot the great need for 64-bit this and that, using very large fonts to stress the urgency.


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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/30 20:12:17 (permalink)

    It is interesting to see the path that technology takes. I think all monitors will change. the major issue today is bandwidth. With all the devices that function and it seems everything needs an internet connection. That really eats the data. Before the desktop is completely replaced they have other issues to resolve. click and see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38
    I was at best buy the other day and they were selling a refrigerator that connects to the internet. The evolution of computers seems to be this. All data will be stored on line. Hard Drives will be smaller because you may even install your programs on line. All pictures, music, documents, data, and even videos you purchase will one day be stored on line. Everything will be stored on the net. You will just access them with what ever device you are using.

    At least this is the trend, you can even stream movie rentals from on line these days. Check out a day made of glass (link above) and see what is coming. Of course they really need to solve the bandwidth problem in order for all this to take effect.

    I am not saying it will go this way. This is just the current trend. 

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/30 20:32:20 (permalink)
    I am the 10%!!

    They can have my desktop when they pry it, and my optical mouse, from my cold dead hands....

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/09/30 21:05:18 (permalink)
    They might also being talking about the all in one computer where it looks that you can not change parts and all of the computer is in the monitor and the only parts of the computer is the monitor, keyboard and mouse. Again for the average user whether college or business, but not for someone who actually does more with a computer and not for me. Thankfully there still is a business who actually puts together desktops despite the trends of the "you can't really change it" all in one computer which I will never buy at best buy.

     
     
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/10/02 16:07:17 (permalink)
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    Case in point: 99% of computer users do not need 64-bit computing.
     
     
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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/10/02 16:13:54 (permalink)
    Jonbouy

    I'm thinking that a large portion of that 10% will be guys and gals like us.
    Nope, not a chance.  Guys and gals like us will always be a really marginal fringe.  But thank goodness business users will keep the desktop technology commercially viable for probably more than our lifespans.  Thank you, business, for letting us ride on your coattails.

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    Re:Forbes says that desktops will stick around for 10% of computer users 2012/10/03 16:25:26 (permalink)
    I was at best buy the other day and they were selling a refrigerator that connects to the internet.



    Very handy to have your refrigerator connected. You never know when your refrigerator might need to get hold of you.


    Just be sure that if you get a text that says, "I need to be defrosted," it is not from your girlfriend.
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