Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control

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Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control

I'm trying to use my new Behringer X32 digital mixer to control Sonar X2 Via the Mackie Control.  I have tried every possible setting in Sonar and on the Behringer X32 Board.  It just won't connect.  I've tried the X32 with Presonus Studio One and it works perfect.  I have the firewire midi ports from the x32 selected for both in and out.   I have all the newest drivers installed for the Behringer X32.  I'm using Windows 7 32 bit.  It has to be something with Sonar because like I said it works perfect with Studio One.  Can anyone please  help?
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    LittleWiggler
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/01 01:30:28 (permalink)
    I have the same problem (X1 and X2).  It works with other 'named' DAWs, but not Sonar.  Win 7 64 bit.
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/01 02:26:01 (permalink)
    Funny, same thing with the Maschine Host control via Mackie Control in X1. Says connecting, but never connects. In Studio One, it works perfectly.
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/01 07:28:45 (permalink)
    Sorry for being off topic, but can I ask you guys what your thoughts on the X32 are?

    Is it good in a studio environment as opposed to live?

    Thanks.

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/01 07:52:21 (permalink)
    My Behringer BCF2000 connects OK via Mackie Control.   I show "Mackie Control - 1" and both the in port and out port "BCF2000". 

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/01 08:29:33 (permalink)
    I was thinking about buying one of these. Let us know if you get it to work.



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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/01 09:05:33 (permalink)
    I can't get my Motif XF7 to connect with Sonar.  The Motif specifies Mackie Control.  All MIDI ports are set up correctly.  So I'm at a loss as to how to set it up as well.

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/01 09:07:25 (permalink)
    Oops....Let me clarify... I can't get the Motif to CONTROL Sonar...  it transmits MIDI and audio data just fine over my Firewire connections.

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/02 03:05:57 (permalink)
    Mully & Laney.  The X32 is a great board for live and recording.  If sonar would just let the X32 control it, I'd be totally in love with it.  When I switch to Studio One it works flawlessly.  I think cakewalk has just let there Mackie control dll & ini files get too out of date because they want us all to be forced to buy there control surfaces.  Before I do that, I will just switch to another DAW.
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/02 08:46:57 (permalink)
    Thanks spitshine! I don't think Cake are going to force anyone to buy their surfaces in any hurry. The 700C is dysfunctional under the X platform.

    Not sure what's going on anymore with Cake to be honest.

    Sounds like Studio One may be worth a check out if the integration is tight but then I'm thinking Studio One can't be that great if users still jump back to Sonar? More to ponder perhaps....

    Thanks again.

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/02 09:11:36 (permalink)
    To all, not that this is totally relevant but there was an issue with a mackie remote control app (AC7) where it stuck at "connecting"..

    A determined user here on the forum discovered that if you delete the two config files associated with control surfaces (ctrlsurface.dat and ttseq.ini) Sonar assumedly starts from scratch and it worked.

    It may be worth a shot for those wishing to experiment and of course the sensible may rename the originals either just in case or to preserve existing control surface information. 


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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/02 10:09:03 (permalink)
    Thanks Mystic.  I may try that!

    Cheers!

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/02 10:25:25 (permalink)
    I noticed odd things happening to the control surface configuration as well, in regards to the contour shuttle pro v2.

    After I add my Contour shuttle, adding other surfaces gets weird. I can add them, but they do not show up in the list. They do appear in the control surfaces widget, but hang on "Connecting...". When I delete the contour shuttle entry, all the entries after it show up in the config editor, but the entries donot function. Removing and re-adding them gets them connecting again.

    If I add the Contour shuttle last, everything works fine. So before I add a new surface, I have to remember to delete the Shuttle's entry, add my new surface, then add back the shuttle.

    I'm using the latest shuttle software.

    So, if you happen to use a shuttle, you might want to give that work around a try.

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/02 22:10:56 (permalink)
    Hey thanks Mystic38.  I tried your idea.  No worky.  I had my hopes up though.  While I was looking for the 2 files you told me to delete, I noticed there are no Mackie presets in the control surface presets file.  Does anyone know if it needs a Mackie preset to work?
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/02 22:24:41 (permalink)
    I can't connect my SONAR To it either. Because in Australia (just saw the first eBay advert for the X32) it's priced at wait for it $5,599.00 ouch! Considering the level the Aussie dollar is at we're being gouged again for being down under.
    Hope you guys get the connection issue sorted out. I'm happy to stay with my StudioLive 2442 for now.

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/03 02:23:39 (permalink)
    trying to use my new Behringer X32 digital mixer



    How do you like that mixer? I played with it a bit a G.C. the other day and, at least on the surface, it seemed impressive. I'd love to replace my Phonic Firewire mixer in our PA with something like that or one of the newer Presonus boards. Did they manage to incorporate any feedback elimination algorithms? That's something Presonus left out ...
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/03 08:37:22 (permalink)
    Try deleting or renaming ctrlsurface.dat and ttseq.ini in your Sonar directory with Sonar closed, Sonar recreates it when started. Then try adding your controller surfaces. Had to do this to make V-Control Pro work with Sonar via Mackie Control.


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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/03 09:01:44 (permalink)
    Hey Mudgel I've found them for around $3600 at Cranbourne Music and around $3k from the US.

    Still serious coin and I'm wondering if they end up like the V-Studio stuff to be honest... not sure it's worth the pain but they look pretty good!

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/03 10:38:13 (permalink)
    Hey Everyone using Firewire, try switching to USB 2.0 with the X32 to control Sonar.

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/03 17:34:10 (permalink)
    I tried deleting both of the files.  Didn't work.  I tried using the usb instead of firewire.  Didn't work.  I got a hold of tech. support today.  They don't know what's wrong.  I guess I'll try Behringer.  Why would it work just fine with one DAW and not Sonar?
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/04 01:17:27 (permalink)
    Tonight just for fun I tried setting Sonar X2 to all the other available controllers, and guess what?  It worked when I set it on V-700c.  Well, most things worked.  The bank select buttons are backwards and the track names don't show up on the scribble strips on the X32, but i can control faders, mute, solo, start, stop, rw, ff and select tracks.  This proves to me that either cakewalk or behringer just needs to update their mackie control files to make them work with each other.
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/13 17:27:56 (permalink)
    gustabo


    Try deleting or renaming ctrlsurface.dat and ttseq.ini in your Sonar directory with Sonar closed, Sonar recreates it when started. Then try adding your controller surfaces. Had to do this to make V-Control Pro work with Sonar via Mackie Control.


    Tried as I may, I can not find those files.
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/13 19:01:13 (permalink)
      That price is truly terrible. I just bought an X32 for $2480 here in the USA (brand new). That included shipping (the package weighs 60 lbs or about 25 kilos). With the Aussie dollar at 1.2 usd they are really taking the piss.
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/13 20:23:59 (permalink)
    The files are located in: %APPDATA%/cakewalk/<your sonar version>

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/14 02:41:42 (permalink)
    Thanks!! That worked for me this time round.
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/14 20:50:46 (permalink)
    I have a few questions about the B'ger X32. Is this the thread, should I start a new thread or is there a better suited thread already going?
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2012/10/16 01:14:42 (permalink)
    I Tried controlling Sonar X2 With my Motif XF Keyboard on Mackie Control and it works fine.  I guess it's just something between the X32 and sonar.  I hope There's an update for 1 or both soon so I can use the X32 to control.  I love  how it shows the actual track names from Studio one on the scribble strips.  It makes it so you don't have to look at the computer screen so much.
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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2016/06/17 11:18:02 (permalink)
    Yay!  It looks like this has worked for me on the first try for the X Touch Compact.  Thanks!

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2016/06/17 11:25:29 (permalink)
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    Yay!  It looks like this has worked for me on the first try for the X Touch Compact.  Thanks!



    What worked on the first try?  You mean deleting the two files? 

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    Re:Sonar X2 Producer Won't Connect to Behringer X32 Via Mackie Control 2016/08/17 23:35:19 (permalink)
    I'm adding this in hopes of helping the next poor soul struggling with a Behringer X-Touch...
     
    Do as the previous threads say, delete the two files...and if it doesn't take, do it again. And again.
     
    Reboot your PC after each, and restart Sonar fresh each time.
     
    Try cycling power/startup in a different sequence.
     
    Deleting the two files should also delete the Mackie Control from the list of controllers, so add it back in.
     
    I deleted it from the list using the red X, then re-added it.
     
    Somewhere along the way...it started to work.
     
    Tenacity will be rewarded.
     
    Now where is that template for the other buttons...

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