SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this???

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May 16, 13 6:13 AM (permalink)

SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this???

Hi everyone,
 
I've been using X1 for all of my studio work but have now decided to move s l o w l y into X2. There have been issues but I've worked through them and haven't had massive problems... until now.
 
I'm running two Delta 1010s. One the full version with breakout box and the other is the 1010LT.
 
In X1 I was able to record 16 ins without hassles using both cards. In X2 however, the 1010 full version records perfectly but the 1010LT seems to have a massive distortion on it. What makes it even more complicated is that sometimes the recording starts out perfectly but as the track goes on it seems to slowly get more and more distorted that by the end of the track it is completely unlistenable. It's almost as if the driver is letting go as the track proceeds.
 
This happens on 1 track. 2 tracks or eight tracks but all on the 1010LT. It sounds like a driver issue but the drivers are exactly the same for X1 and X2. If I make changes to SONAR's setup (unchecking 64 bit double precision engine) then it works for a while but the problem does come back.
 
I've changed settings, buffers, bit rates etc but nothing seems to make any difference.
 
This has become highly irritating, especially when I have clients sitting with me.
 
If anyone else has had this problem and managed to resolve it please let me know.
 
I'm running a quad core computer with 6Gb of RAM. 4 hard drives.
 
Cheers,
 
Peter.
 
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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 16, 13 6:34 AM (permalink)
    have you tried reinstalling the drivers, just to make sure ?? do you have the x2a patch installed ??? it might be worth a bash reinstalling x2 as well, are you cool with clean installs ?? are you running both x1 and x2 64 bit/32bit ??
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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 16, 13 7:24 AM (permalink)
    Chregg


    have you tried reinstalling the drivers, just to make sure ?? do you have the x2a patch installed ??? it might be worth a bash reinstalling x2 as well, are you cool with clean installs ?? are you running both x1 and x2 64 bit/32bit ??

    Hi Chregg,
     
    I reinstalled drivers, X2 with the patch. They are clean installs as well.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Peter.
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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 16, 13 7:53 AM (permalink)
    1.  Can you configure Windows so that your interface is the default device for playback and recording, and then play a couple of tunes through Windows Media Player and post back on the results?  If THAT still sounds bad, then there is likely a driver issue between the interface and Windows itself.

    2.  IF the above plays cleanly, try setting the interface to a Sample Rate of 44100 and an ASIO Buffer Size of 128, (if they use a different method for the buffer you may need to pick something like number of samples or something like that, and if so try to pick something that has a latency of less than 9 ms).  

    These settings are for initial debugging purposes, and if all ends up working you can try to improve performance, but I am just suggesting these as a starting point while getting it to at least sound cleanly.  

    SO, one the interface settings are made, PHYSICALLY cycle the interface, by turning it off and back on.PLEASE NOTE here that Sonar should NOT be running while you are doing the stuff in step 2.  

    3.  Once the above is completed, fire up Sonar and go to Preferences>Audio>Playback and Recording, and select ASIO as the Driver Mode, then click Apply.

    4.  Now, go to Preferences>Audio>Device Settings, and make sure that the Sample Rate is set to 44100 and click apply.  Make sure your playback and recording timing masters are set appropriately and note the latency values reported at the bottom.  (I would like you to post those values to this thread, as well.

    5.  In Preferences>Audio>Devices, you should see your 1010LT present.

    6.  OK, so now start a new project, using the Normal template.  Insert an audio track, select the audio track by clicking on the number of the track at the far left side of the track in the track pane.  Once it is selected, it should highlight the track.  Right-click on the track and insert the same song you had earlier played through Windows Media Playerr.  Sonar will import the music file to the audio track, and this will take a little time.  Once that completes, simply hit play or hit the space bar to begin playback, and post back to this thread on how the playback sounds.

    7.  IF the audio rack plays back normally, you should be ready to rock and roll in Sonar.  If, on the other hand, things are NOT yet working, please post that back, so that we can look at some other ways of getting this working for you.

    Thanks for your patience in running the above, I am just trying to go back to the basics to see what happens.

    Bob Bone

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 16, 13 8:00 AM (permalink)
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    1.  Can you configure Windows so that your interface is the default device for playback and recording, and then play a couple of tunes through Windows Media Player and post back on the results?  If THAT still sounds bad, then there is likely a driver issue between the interface and Windows itself.

    2.  IF the above plays cleanly, try setting the interface to a Sample Rate of 44100 and an ASIO Buffer Size of 128, (if they use a different method for the buffer you may need to pick something like number of samples or something like that, and if so try to pick something that has a latency of less than 9 ms).  

    These settings are for initial debugging purposes, and if all ends up working you can try to improve performance, but I am just suggesting these as a starting point while getting it to at least sound cleanly.  

    SO, one the interface settings are made, PHYSICALLY cycle the interface, by turning it off and back on.PLEASE NOTE here that Sonar should NOT be running while you are doing the stuff in step 2.  

    3.  Once the above is completed, fire up Sonar and go to Preferences>Audio>Playback and Recording, and select ASIO as the Driver Mode, then click Apply.

    4.  Now, go to Preferences>Audio>Device Settings, and make sure that the Sample Rate is set to 44100 and click apply.  Make sure your playback and recording timing masters are set appropriately and note the latency values reported at the bottom.  (I would like you to post those values to this thread, as well.

    5.  In Preferences>Audio>Devices, you should see your 1010LT present.

    6.  OK, so now start a new project, using the Normal template.  Insert an audio track, select the audio track by clicking on the number of the track at the far left side of the track in the track pane.  Once it is selected, it should highlight the track.  Right-click on the track and insert the same song you had earlier played through Windows Media Playerr.  Sonar will import the music file to the audio track, and this will take a little time.  Once that completes, simply hit play or hit the space bar to begin playback, and post back to this thread on how the playback sounds.

    7.  IF the audio rack plays back normally, you should be ready to rock and roll in Sonar.  If, on the other hand, things are NOT yet working, please post that back, so that we can look at some other ways of getting this working for you.

    Thanks for your patience in running the above, I am just trying to go back to the basics to see what happens.

    Bob Bone

    Hi there Bob,
     
    Thank you for your help. I'll need a bit of time in trying this but I will get back to you asap.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Peter.
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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 16, 13 8:17 AM (permalink)
    I don't know if any of the info in the links below will help, but I did find some discussion on multiple Delta cards.

    Some of these posts from the following links are old, but maybe some of the info is still helpful:

    http://forum.cakewalk.com...mpage=1&print=true

    http://forum.cakewalk.com...mpage=1&print=true

    http://www.homerecordingc...amp;id=11997&frm=5

    http://www.soundonsound.c...rticles/pcmusician.htm



    Bob Bone


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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 16, 13 8:31 AM (permalink)
    Try opening Sonar in safe mode and play the project without any effects and see what happens.

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 17, 13 7:53 AM (permalink)
    robert_e_bone


    1.  Can you configure Windows so that your interface is the default device for playback and recording, and then play a couple of tunes through Windows Media Player and post back on the results?  If THAT still sounds bad, then there is likely a driver issue between the interface and Windows itself.

    2.  IF the above plays cleanly, try setting the interface to a Sample Rate of 44100 and an ASIO Buffer Size of 128, (if they use a different method for the buffer you may need to pick something like number of samples or something like that, and if so try to pick something that has a latency of less than 9 ms).  

    These settings are for initial debugging purposes, and if all ends up working you can try to improve performance, but I am just suggesting these as a starting point while getting it to at least sound cleanly.  

    SO, one the interface settings are made, PHYSICALLY cycle the interface, by turning it off and back on.PLEASE NOTE here that Sonar should NOT be running while you are doing the stuff in step 2.  

    3.  Once the above is completed, fire up Sonar and go to Preferences>Audio>Playback and Recording, and select ASIO as the Driver Mode, then click Apply.

    4.  Now, go to Preferences>Audio>Device Settings, and make sure that the Sample Rate is set to 44100 and click apply.  Make sure your playback and recording timing masters are set appropriately and note the latency values reported at the bottom.  (I would like you to post those values to this thread, as well.

    5.  In Preferences>Audio>Devices, you should see your 1010LT present.

    6.  OK, so now start a new project, using the Normal template.  Insert an audio track, select the audio track by clicking on the number of the track at the far left side of the track in the track pane.  Once it is selected, it should highlight the track.  Right-click on the track and insert the same song you had earlier played through Windows Media Playerr.  Sonar will import the music file to the audio track, and this will take a little time.  Once that completes, simply hit play or hit the space bar to begin playback, and post back to this thread on how the playback sounds.

    7.  IF the audio rack plays back normally, you should be ready to rock and roll in Sonar.  If, on the other hand, things are NOT yet working, please post that back, so that we can look at some other ways of getting this working for you.

    Thanks for your patience in running the above, I am just trying to go back to the basics to see what happens.

    Bob Bone
    Hi Bob,
     
    I've carried out all the settings that you suggested but there's no improvement.
     
    I must just clarify that it's not the playback thats giving the problems, it's the record but only on the 1010LT.
     
    What even makes it more complicated is that when playing back the recorded file it will start off absolutely clean but then as the file progresses it will get more and more distorted.
     
    If you can send me your email add I'll email you an mp3 of the problem file.
     
    ps I did try to pm you but your inbox is full. 
     
    Cheers,
     
    Peter.
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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 17, 13 5:09 PM (permalink)
    I cleared out a few message from my inbox, and I sent you a PM with my contact info.


    I will monitor emails/PM's/cell for the remainder of the day today.


    Bob Bone
        

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 17, 13 5:54 PM (permalink)
    When is the last time you defragged your HD? Is it nearly full? 

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 6:46 AM (permalink)
    Pete - check your Private Messages and also your personal email for some replies from me.

    It appears that you might be in South Africa, therefore calling my cell might not be a good option for you.  (It's fine for me, but that will get expensive for you real quick).

    I DID listen to the MP3 and it does indeed sound quite gnarly with distortion.

    So - since I have a bunch of info in the personal emails, I will look to those to continue our analysis, and when we finish I will update this thread for others who may (hopefully) benefit from it.

    Bob Bone


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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 7:27 AM (permalink)
    Does X1 still work OK?  Or could it be bad luck - and coincidence - that the LT has failed at a similar time to your move to X2?
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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 7:41 AM (permalink)
    A fine question - in one of his private messages, he indicated that it still works in X1.

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 7:45 AM (permalink)
    It's happened to me - on one of the old Cakewalk newsgroups, I ranted about the stability of one version...and after months discovered that a disk cable had become intermittent at almost exactly the same time as I installed the new version!  I did grovel :-)
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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 7:51 AM (permalink)
    I think that just about everyone in this forum has groveled - I am a repeat offender, DOH.  (I also learned that adjectives should be avoided when ranting - specially when one is wrong) :)

    I am waiting for the original poster to call me on my cell, and I will try to get to the bottom of this, followed by a post catching up this thread with what gets discussed and tried.

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 10:15 AM (permalink)
    I used to use 2 delta's and as I recall there were issues with the sync between the cards. are you using spdif to link the cards for timing or having the driver sync them? 

    Also what buffer size are you using?
     
    If you are using asio try switching to wdm. For me the delta was more stable with wdm.

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 12:53 AM (permalink)
    To see if it is a timing issue between the cards:

    preferneces->Audio->Driver Settings

    Change the "Record Timing Master" to the other device (if it's set to the 1010 change it to the 1010LT, and vice-verse).

    Try a sample recording.

    If it is a timing issue between the boards, now the tracks connected to the 1010 would have the distortion.

    If that is the case, you will need to put a cable between the devices to sync them. IIRC, both have word clock IO.
    So connect the "work clock out" of the 1010 into the "word clock in" of the LT.
    Select the 1010 as the timing master for playback and recording in Sonar.
    I don't remember the configuration panels for the Delta (I had a 1010 a few years ago), but you have to configure the 1010 to be the master and the LT to be the slave.
    Once all that is done, the two cards should not drift out of timing.
    post edited by js516 - May 30, 13 3:02 PM

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 1:26 PM (permalink)
    @js516 - thank you SOOOO much for this post.  I spoke to the original poster on the phone this morning, and we had concluded it was either something with connecting the cards or some issue between those cards and X2a.

    I hope this info helps resolve this, 

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 1:50 PM (permalink)
     I realized Bob you are trying to help but this is a forum for all. These private messages are unproductive for the forum. 

    When a poster has asked questions of me in a PM I have always asked them to post it on the forum. We work together and offer support to each other with a view that what we find is available to all. 

    A problem solved on the forum becomes part of the forum's knowledge base. When it is done via PMs it is lost to the forum.

    We have this wonderful place to support one another. It should not become a closed invitation only tech support. 

    PMs should be used to discuss private matters. Things that are not suited for public disclosure. 

    Fixing a problem with Sonar is not a private matter.

    Please stop taking forum postings away from the forum. 



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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 30, 13 2:39 PM (permalink)
    @john - I have over time ended up going through things over the phone and/or through messaging - and I have done so sparingly, and each and every time I provide a full accounting back to the thread in question, on top of that there is no new information to post to the thread as of yet.

    It is usually over things like language barriers, and I have on a couple of occasions signed on remotely to view settings and such when the poster could not clearly convey information.

    I do try to use my best judgment, and in any case ALWAYS make sure the thread is brought up to date as soon as possible.  In the case of this particular thread, the poster has gone off to do a phone call to Cakewalk technical support, from Sough Africa, and has agreed to update this thread with what he finds out.  I spoke to him at around 5:30 or so this morning, my time.  I believe it will be tomorrow before the thread gets updated, but it WILL get updated.

    Additionally, the usual reason for a PM and private email is so that the poster can send me files and such, as sometimes I load pieces of a project on my system to see if I can uncover anything.

    And, I promised to post the results of the call from this morning to this thread.  I do not have anything to update, but the poster WILL be updating the thread most likely in the wee hours our time.

    Here is my earlier post snippet, promising to do so, PRECISELY to not end up with keeping the forum in the dark:

    I am waiting for the original poster to call me on my cell, and I will try to get to the bottom of this, followed by a post catching up this thread with what gets discussed and tried. 
    I believe I have a reasonable track record of being fairly thorough (though not always as accurate as I wish), and will certainly continue to try to do my best in the process.

    Bob Bone


    post edited by robert_e_bone - May 30, 13 2:47 PM

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    Re:SONAR X2A Has anybody experienced this??? May 31, 13 5:20 AM (permalink)
    I have done a lot more research on this problem and have been going through the posts on the M Audio Forums as well.

    What I can see from a few other people having the same hassles is that it seems to be a Windows 7 64 bit problem. The other posters all are running this version of the OS.

    What makes it even harder to work out is that even though I'm running the 64bit version of X1 and X2, the problem only seems to occur on X2. It is an intermittent problem though so that also clouds the issue. I can say that I've just had a band in the studio for a week doing tracking and I ran with X1 for the session. I had absolutely no hassles.

    I can get X2 to reproduce the problem fairly easily though.

    I'm not saying that the problem is with X2. It just seems to happen when I'm using X2. Maybe I've just been lucky with X1.

    I'm starting to think that this is a driver issue which has come out only in the Windows 7 64bit driver. I've also contacted M Audio but had no response. I know that these Delta 1010s are getting a bit old now and support is slowly disappearing. I realise that I should start looking for another multiple input interface but there doesn't seem to be a lot of choice unless you want to spend fairly large sums of money. I need 16 ins and preferably all on one interface.

    M Audio is selling another interface with 8 ins and 8 outs but it works via firewire and I'm not sure if that is the way to go.

    Alternatively, it would be really nice if M Audio would just respond, look into this and maybe come up with some new drivers that actually work.

    I have switched to WDM to see if that makes any difference but it's gonna have to be short term because the latency with WDM is terrible.

    I see that someone else on the forum is having the same issue as I am and is also using Windows 7 64 bit.

    I will keep you posted.

    Cheers,

    Peter.
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