HMusikk
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Recording and acoustic band playing Irish Folk music..
Hi group, I need a little advice here, maybe some of you can help me…
Next week I’m gonna record a band playing Irish Folk Music in my studio. They’ll use acoustic guitar, violin, banjo, flute, accordion, mouth organ and bass guitar. I have these microphones available: Microtech Gefell UM70 and M70, Studio Projects C1, Studio Projects C4, Røde NTK, Røde NT5, Røde NT3, Shure SM58, SM57, Beta57, Beta52, PG48 and Superlux PRA-238B.
My question is, has anybody of you experience with recording a band like that, and what microphones would you use on what instrument (especially interested in the violin, flute, banjo and the accordion since I havn’t had such instruments in the studio before)
Gunnar Hustvedt http://www.h-musikk.no/english.html ASUS X99-E, Socket-2011-3,Intel Core i7-6850K, Noctua NH-U9S CPU Cooler, Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133MHz 16GB, Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2 PCIe SSD (System), Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5" SSD (Data), Samsung 850 EVO 1TB 2.5" SSD (Sample), WD Desktop Black 1TB 3.5" (Audio), Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Windforce, Corsair RM750x 750W PSU, Samsung 34" LED Curved C34F791, Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Lynx AES16e, Aurora 16, Sonar Platinum, Pro Tools 12, Studio One 3
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Freakwitch
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RE: Recording and acoustic band playing Irish Folk music..
2005/02/11 09:43:09
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Hi, it should be a treat to record a band like that, if of course they are actually good at what they do.  If they are tight as a band, depending on your room I'd set them up in a circle with gobos between everyone, and take some time to experiment with the mics. There are of course no cut and dry rules; it'd be well worth it to take an hour or more to experiment with different mics on different instruments. If it were me, I'd probably start with the following: acoustic guitar: Rode NTK and NT5 violin: Studio Projects C1 banjo: Shure Beta57 flute: Studio Projects C4 accordion: Rode NT3 mouth organ: Shure SM58 bass guitar: use a DI I don't have any experience with the Gefell mics, though I know they are supposed to be really good. I'd consider using them as room mics to pick up the entire ensemble. Anyway, just one starting point/suggestion.
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HMusikk
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RE: Recording and acoustic band playing Irish Folk music..
2005/02/12 15:04:08
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Thanks for your input. I plan to place them in the studio with gobos (office type) but i was not sure which mic to use on which instrument. I think I'll follow your advice to take a littel time to experiment... My next conserne is "are they good enogh" (play tight enogh). the gefell Mic's has the neumann M7 capsule you can acutally read the history here: http://www.microtechgefell.de/eng/history/HistoriePDF/E_History%20Microtech%20Gefell%20_pdf.pdf
post edited by HMusikk - 2005/02/12 15:11:49
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Freakwitch
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RE: Recording and acoustic band playing Irish Folk music..
2005/02/12 17:35:11
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I'm sure that's a great mic. I'd love to try one someday.
Yeah, definitely take time to experiment, both with mic selection and mic placement. Finding the sweet spot is arguably just as important as using the right mic. You have a decent mic collection, so you should be able to get great sound.
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DonnyAir
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RE: Recording and acoustic band playing Irish Folk music..
2005/02/17 10:27:42
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Don't discount the importance of miking technique, Gunnar. You can have the finest selection of studio mics around, but knowing where and how to place them is just as important. I'm a big fan of Coincidental Pairing, or "X-Y" mic placement, especially on acoustic instruments. Try close miking, off axis, room or ambient miking in conjunction with close miking, etc.. If you have a good selection of condensers, you're certainly off to a great start, but placement is everything. Also, you may want to try using different surfaces (removable curtains or ply wood sheets) that you can quickly add or take away to manipulate the reflection or absorption factors of the room you are recording in. A carpet that can be rolled up or laid out is a cheap investment, and a good 4 x 8 sheet of 1/2 plywood that you can lay down or get out of the way won't cost you much either, (I've had success having the players actually stand on plywood sheets while they are recording, although I would place the mic stand off of the ply to avoid any "wizzly" vibrations), and the best thing about these nuances is that you can add or remove them based on the sound(s) you want. Just a thought.. Donny DonnyAir@neo.rr.com
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