new wrench piece 'Denial'

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2005/02/24 21:59:14 (permalink)

new wrench piece 'Denial'


ok
finished this up
still no drama
very quiet piece

'Denial'
at the site in my signature
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/24 22:27:54 (permalink)
    i like it. seems like it needs to be balanced better in the mixing process....but you did say its experimental.

    the melodys really brings these piece together...the drums seem a little low. i wouldnt bring them up to much...maybe up just a notch.
    very easy to listen to.

    is the voice type sound a sample in the background? what did you use. what did you use for the guitar sound? i like the struming string effect.

    im glad i came online......this just put me in a good mood.

      
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 07:58:27 (permalink)


    the guitar sample and midi strum patterns are from a Computer Music magazine coverdisc from a few months back that I hadn't got around to using before
    and then that strum pattern goes into an arpeggiator

    that voice is an Absynth patch that combines that moaning with some static alien noise
    gets pretty lost in some sections
    so the way that usually works is some sort of small wav file with a ton of processing

    i like the beginning where the minimalist detuned piano part combines with the voice to create a sort of melody

    the rest
    really doesn't hold together for me very well


     


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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 08:41:25 (permalink)
    I thought this was excellent. Really enjoyed it. The drums could possibly have been more prominent, but apart from that i thought it was great. Put it this way, if i was compiling an album of your tunes this would be near the top of the list. The opening was one of your best so far imo and it sounded just as good to me after that. 9/10.
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 09:06:46 (permalink)
    the guitar sample and midi strum patterns are from a Computer Music magazine


    thats cheating........

      
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 09:24:44 (permalink)
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    well. you know, i've bought a lot of those magazines thinking I'd use at least one of 1000 samples on the CD and never have

    this was one case where the guitar samples were so well done and then they had these guitar chord patterns that actually follow the convention for guitar range and note selection.
    and with all these useful samples I'm running out of room on my hard drive everything on there has to pull its weight now.


    blipp,
    i don't know.
    this needs some work
    a lot of volume levels are kinda jumpy
    and it needs more structure -- repeating every pattern twice isn't doing much for me
    it's a sketch that has some pieces much further along than others

    I may strip it way back and build it back up

    how's your flu?


     


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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 09:36:47 (permalink)
    how's your flu?


    blipps not sick...hes just so overwelmed with one of my piano pieces, that it takes up all of his time trying to match its perfection.

      
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 09:41:16 (permalink)
    blipp,
    i don't know.
    this needs some work
    a lot of volume levels are kinda jumpy
    and it needs more structure -- repeating every pattern twice isn't doing much for me
    it's a sketch that has some pieces much further along than others

    I may strip it way back and build it back up


    Maybe you've heard it too many times during the making of it and that has influenced how you feel about it as i know this happens to me quite a lot. Just before i posted my Atoms Collide track for the first time i was 75% in favour of scrapping it completely, but i thought what the heck and posted it. I'm glad i did'nt now, but it just illustrates how we are'nt always the best judges of our own music. Remember, this is'nt an exact science and if some people like it then it must be ok. I'm not saying don't try and improve it, just don't scrap it. I think it's a really great track with a wonderful chord progression. There's nothing wrong with repeats either really, some of my fave tracks repeat lines all the way through.
    how's your flu?


    A bit better thanks, but will probably be a few more days yet till i'm fully fit.
    blipps not sick...hes just so overwelmed with one of my piano pieces, that it takes up all of his time trying to match its perfection.


    Yeh he's right. It actualy gave me a relapse.
    post edited by blipp - 2005/02/25 09:50:25
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 10:27:14 (permalink)
    oh...oh..piano?? Where... when did I miss your piano piece :10: ?

    Point me! [Im a classically trained pianist!]
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 10:49:03 (permalink)
    oh...oh..piano?? Where... when did I miss your piano piece :10: ?

    Point me! [Im a classically trained pianist!]


    sorry...you will have to wait until blipp is done with it. its been up before in a song..but i only liked the piano part...so i didnt know what to do with it, and gave it to blipp.

    sorry wrench...looks like your thread is heading in a different direction. its all DA's fault....j/k

    so...how does everyone like my darkerproject banner....so soon ....so very soon.
    post edited by :10: - 2005/02/25 10:57:20

      
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 12:01:08 (permalink)

    as m,uch as i twist other threads to my own devioius purposes,
    i'm not going to complain here

    re: the banner
    coming 2005, doesn't have quite the urgency of Coming Spring 2005
    or Coming March 2005


     


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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 12:19:12 (permalink)
    re: the banner
    coming 2005, doesn't have quite the urgency of Coming Spring 2005
    or Coming March 2005


    how about.....anyday now!!!....if cafepress would just hurry up.....

      
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 12:21:49 (permalink)
    man wrench! Is any place sacred!?


    WRENCH INVADES A WEBSITE NEAR YOU!!
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/25 13:30:47 (permalink)

    speaking of which

    interesting early discussion on podcasting at the soundclick electronica forum

    http://www.soundclick.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=76777&sid=c9ed2fec069f31657394ba173c456340

    This may be something that project5.com could look into
    that would be cutting edge


     


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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/26 16:02:53 (permalink)

    back on topic

    i finished it up fwiw

    at the soundclick site linked in my signature


     


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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/26 22:56:13 (permalink)
    Hi Wrench,

    Another nice tune. My favourite parts are probably where the detuned chords are the major focus (the intro, 2:30 onwards for a bit and 4:00-4:20ish) - those parts are absolutely wonderful to my ears, the syncopation of the changes and their progression is just great. Keep it coming!
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/02/27 09:38:43 (permalink)

    that detuned processed piano is one preset from a set of two very small banks from the Absynth User Library that are 'designed' to be Boards of Canada like

    that and the processed moaning voice started out as a BoC type piece
    but then we got into the usual chord progression explorations

    but i'll definitely be returning to those Absynth BoC presets -- those detuned, blurred sort of My Bloody Valentine presets are great

    i'm finding it pretty interesting how different pieces -- different levels of drive or 'aggression' require different engagement/relationship with the listener

    but if I start talking about it things'll get heady in a hurry
    I'll just say this a quieter piece than the last few




     


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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/03/01 20:27:17 (permalink)


    new version put up on the site

    slight, but I think effective changes

    listen if you're not tired of it yet


     


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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/03/01 20:31:09 (permalink)
    WOW...I actually forgot to listen to this piece after making a note to check it out after work the first time!

    LOVE ( I mean absolutely LOVE ) that guitar work! What synth IS that?

    And the detuned piano is very cool! Im impressed with this completely!! I had to log back in and vote it HOT!!! BTW, this is my favourite of yours!!

    edit: curious...what is the current chart rating on this one?
    post edited by Digital Aura - 2005/03/01 20:39:32
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    RE: new wrench piece at audioshots 2005/03/01 20:57:24 (permalink)

    thanks DA

    the guitar samples and midi strum patterns are from a Computer Music coverdisc about November or so -- this is the steel strings set

    i've been told that ERA sequencer and arpeggiator that the Wood Man was looking at has some excellent strum patterns

    the detuned piano is a newer Absynth user bank from Jeremiah Goertz in the style of Boards of Canada -- my context is more smeary My Bloody Valentine -- but i can't quit using this preset -- it's alrerady in the start of my next project

    as to charts position
    the previous tune is still charting despite the fact that this one had twice the plays and downloads yesterday -- this has happened to me before and as far as I can determine there's no explanation -- even the veterans on the soundclick electronica forum urged me to not bother to try figuring it out -- consequently that initial surge of plays sometimes doesn't get charted -- oh well

    this tune has grown on me
    ed, one of my favorite (of few) critics on the song forum, pointed out this could be a breezy pop tune


     


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    RE: new wrench piece 'Denial' 2005/03/02 17:08:40 (permalink)
    i finaly had a chance to listen to the new version.
    i like what you did...it all seems to fit together nicly now.
    and as always, mixed well too.

      
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    RE: new wrench piece 'Denial' 2005/03/02 21:33:45 (permalink)
    Nice.

    I'm kicked back on white sand beach, a drink with an umbrella in hand
    Like the mood shift @ at 2:30
    I really like the way the percussion and bass lines work together and also the way the complex pads work together.
    what did you use for the Vox pad?

    eric
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