Samson C01U Condenser mic (USB only)

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RE: Samson C01U Condenser mic (USB only) 2005/11/03 13:33:38 (permalink)
Dude, you are being too literal. And who made the rule you can't use a single mic for a live recording? Not that I would do that necessarily, but I've had problems with cables such that I only record one track. It really doesn't sound too bad. Especially considering most of the places I tend to play are small enough that the sound is essetially mono anyway.

What I really meant was that the interface seems designed to plug into a laptop for portable use rather than in a home studio.
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RE: Samson C01U Condenser mic (USB only) 2005/11/04 13:29:42 (permalink)
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Dude, you are being too literal. And who made the rule you can't use a single mic for a live recording? Not that I would do that necessarily, but I've had problems with cables such that I only record one track. It really doesn't sound too bad. Especially considering most of the places I tend to play are small enough that the sound is essetially mono anyway.

What I really meant was that the interface seems designed to plug into a laptop for portable use rather than in a home studio.


Of course there is no such rule. But in recording a live band, one would more likely want to record in stereo, no? That would not necessarily require more cables, one could use a stereo microphone, with a stereo cable. Not only that, but this microphone is hypercardoid, the pattern is extremely directional. So yes, if the live concert you are recording is a monologue or solo instrument, but not good at all for recording any kind of group.

I agree that laptop use was probably a large part of the idea of designing this kind of microphone, due to the convenience of not having to carry a separate interface-pre-amp box, etc. But I greatly doubt it was designed primarily for the purpose you describe, for recording live performances. I think you wrote that because someone wrote that it was not good for multi-tracking. As I responded, however, that is not quite correct. Yes, with the Windows native USB driver, impossible to use it to record with pre-existing tracks IF monitoring of that track being recorded is turned on while recording it. There is way too much of a delay in the monitored signal. But if monitoring is turned off, there is no problem at all, the recorded track is completely in sync with the pre-existing tracks. Also, someone wrote that using the ASIO4ALL driver greatly reduces that monitoring latency problem. And I suspect that Samson's own driver, when it comes out, will also address that problem. (I think one could say it was designed for "portable home studio use".)

So no, I don't think that the primary purpose of this microphone is to record live performances, and I don't think it would be a good microphone for that purpose. You could call Samson and ask them, if you wish.
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RE: Samson C01U Condenser mic (USB only) 2005/11/07 08:26:47 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: maikii

ORIGINAL: codashome

Dude, you are being too literal. And who made the rule you can't use a single mic for a live recording? Not that I would do that necessarily, but I've had problems with cables such that I only record one track. It really doesn't sound too bad. Especially considering most of the places I tend to play are small enough that the sound is essetially mono anyway.

What I really meant was that the interface seems designed to plug into a laptop for portable use rather than in a home studio.


Of course there is no such rule. But in recording a live band, one would more likely want to record in stereo, no? That would not necessarily require more cables, one could use a stereo microphone, with a stereo cable. Not only that, but this microphone is hypercardoid, the pattern is extremely directional. So yes, if the live concert you are recording is a monologue or solo instrument, but not good at all for recording any kind of group.

I agree that laptop use was probably a large part of the idea of designing this kind of microphone, due to the convenience of not having to carry a separate interface-pre-amp box, etc. But I greatly doubt it was designed primarily for the purpose you describe, for recording live performances. I think you wrote that because someone wrote that it was not good for multi-tracking. As I responded, however, that is not quite correct. Yes, with the Windows native USB driver, impossible to use it to record with pre-existing tracks IF monitoring of that track being recorded is turned on while recording it. There is way too much of a delay in the monitored signal. But if monitoring is turned off, there is no problem at all, the recorded track is completely in sync with the pre-existing tracks. Also, someone wrote that using the ASIO4ALL driver greatly reduces that monitoring latency problem. And I suspect that Samson's own driver, when it comes out, will also address that problem. (I think one could say it was designed for "portable home studio use".)

So no, I don't think that the primary purpose of this microphone is to record live performances, and I don't think it would be a good microphone for that purpose. You could call Samson and ask them, if you wish.


maikii, that is the great thing about this forum. We are able to discuss ideas, exchange opinions, and give advice in a good natured way. While I understand and respect your opinions, I think you are reading too much into what I wrote. "Seems ideal" for several types of live recording, is not the same as "the primary purpose" of the mic. No mic is suited for every situation, as stereo is not suited for every recording. IMHO, mono rules!!

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RE: Samson C01U Condenser mic (USB only) 2005/11/17 11:11:19 (permalink)
Samson's new applet (driver) with low latency ASIO and WDM support is NOW available.

http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1810&brandID=2
"... Windows Applet Note: The Windows SoftPre applet supports both WDM and ASIO and is designed to work with Windows XP (Service Pack 2). ..."

I anyone tries this, please report its effect on latency when monitoring (also called "play through").
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