alswefi_composer
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true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
the scales used in middle east is more than 360 scales but nowadays the main used is 9 scales here is distances between the keys of every scale so 1=tone ,1/2=semitone ,3/4<75%,>64% of tone ,that differs from one country to the other which called arabic secah 1- ajam(Major):- 1-1-1/2-1-1-1-1/2 2- nhawnd(minor):- 1-1/2-1-1-1/2-1-1 3- kord :- 1/2-1-1-1-1/2-1-1 4- hojaz:- 1/2-1 1/2-1/2-1-1/2-1-1 5- nawa_athar:- 1-1/2-1 1/2-1/2-1/2-1 1/2-1/2 6- rast:- 1-3/4-3/4-1-1-3/4-3/4 (we make it by decreasing the third and siventh keys of the major scale by 1/4 tone). 7- byati:- 3/4-3/4-1-1-1/2-1-1 (we make it by decreasing the second key of the minor scale by 1/4 tone). 8- saba:- 3/4-3/4-1/2-1 1/2-1/2-1-1 (we decrease the second key by 1/4) 9- hozam:- 3/4-1-1/2-1 1/2-1/2-1-3/4 (we decrease the first key by 1/4)
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Mooch4056
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/10 18:35:46
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ORIGINAL: alswefi_composer the scales used in middle east is more than 360 scales but nowadays the main used is 9 scales here is distances between the keys of every scale so 1=tone ,1/2=semitone ,3/4<75%,>64% of tone ,that differs from one country to the other which called arabic secah 1- ajam(Major):- 1-1-1/2-1-1-1-1/2 2- nhawnd(minor):- 1-1/2-1-1-1/2-1-1 3- kord :- 1/2-1-1-1-1/2-1-1 4- hojaz:- 1/2-1 1/2-1/2-1-1/2-1-1 5- nawa_athar:- 1-1/2-1 1/2-1/2-1/2-1 1/2-1/2 6- rast:- 1-3/4-3/4-1-1-3/4-3/4 (we make it by decreasing the third and siventh keys of the major scale by 1/4 tone). 7- byati:- 3/4-3/4-1-1-1/2-1-1 (we make it by decreasing the second key of the minor scale by 1/4 tone). 8- saba:- 3/4-3/4-1/2-1 1/2-1/2-1-1 (we decrease the second key by 1/4) 9- hozam:- 3/4-1-1/2-1 1/2-1/2-1-3/4 (we decrease the first key by 1/4) this should come in handy -- I think  as long as you didnt steal the scales -- can u steal scales?
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/10 19:19:30
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ORIGINAL: Mooch4056 as long as you didnt steal the scales -- can u steal scales? Bwahahahahaha
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/10 19:27:59
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I think it's important to make sure the scales are balanced to start or you might as well whistle Dixie! I never use our scales here anymore cuz they lie! Bwahaahaahaaa
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/10 19:34:54
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Edited
post edited by moniker - 2006/01/11 07:16:40
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Mooch4056
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/10 21:08:44
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hojaz:- 1/2-1 1/2-1/2-1-1/2-1-1 I once dated a girl who cheated on me -- here in america we call those girls ho's --- I wonder if she could sing the hojaz scale --- heck I bet alswefi stole that scale from her
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/11 00:11:01
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Although included in Sonar, I won't be using the middle east scales until the moderate middle east musicians renounce the actions of the extremist middle east musicians on a large scale!
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/11 01:41:19
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Huge OT here dustbin please...
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/11 09:28:53
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Since S5 includes so many of these scales, it is not off topic at all. The scales work very well, I might add.
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/11 12:39:25
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Can you tell us some tunes that use that scales 6,7,8,or 9(microtonal)? I will listen to them. How to you get them out of a Korg keyboard? Also, do you use the scale of the song miserlou: 1/2, 1+1/2, 1/2, 1, 1/2, 1+1/2, 1/2 This is a very interesting scale. In the key of E, it is the combination of E major 7 and F major 7 chords. Like the Major scale, Dorian scale, and the blues scale it is symetrical about its center. I have never seen it named.
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/11 14:22:35
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ORIGINAL: pharohoknaughty How to you get them out of a Korg keyboard? Well, there is a basic scale that Korg gives in the global settings, not sure if all the settings are there...but one scale shoudl be enough to intrapolate into the others ....
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RE: true scales used in middle east,who need to know?
2006/01/11 15:05:44
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Yes, my friend, I bought my copy of SONAR 2 for educational reasons. I've found 3 Egyptian scales. If you haven't checked them out yet, because I don't know if they are the most popular scales, but you can see for yourself. Righ click on the FX bin of a MIDI track then pick MIDI FX. Go to Transpose then bullet the Key/Scale radio button. There you can audition from among many international scales.  Thanks for the brief. HTH
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