mattplaysguitar
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Tascam US-122 Problems
Hi i have a tascam us 122 and i had it installed and working fine on my computer, then i got an upgrade. I upgraded the motherboard to a gigabyte GA-8N775 and got a new graphics card. Now when i install the Tascam and play sound out the headphones i can hear the music but there is heaps of crackling in the sound, as though it was a latency issue. I have played around with the settings and cant get it any different. I have taken all my gear and installed it onto another computer and it works prefectly with no problems at all, so the only thing that i can think that is wrong is there must be a hardware compatibility issue. Can anyone help me? If i get a new interface (thinking about the Edirol UA25 USB) what are the chances of it working fine on my computer? thanks
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/14 03:27:37
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did you try to reinstall the driver for the us122?
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mattplaysguitar
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/14 04:33:46
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mattplaysguitar
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/14 05:59:26
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Ok im pretty sure ive tried basicaly everything possible and i conclude that Tascam does not like my computer and thats just how its gonna be... Now i just gotta hope the shop i got it from is nice to me and lets me spend an extra $100 and upgrade to an Edirol UA25
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/14 10:37:31
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Did you try AISO and WDM? Seems some machines play better with one or the other.
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mattplaysguitar
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/15 00:29:16
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I changed over to ASIO once and my computer crashed...Ill try it again just to be sure but pretty sure its just not gonna work...
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/15 06:50:11
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Use a dedicated USB PCI Card, this will most probably cure the problem.
When I changed to a newer Mobo the US-122 was not willing to work with the onboard USB (maybe not enought current) as well but
everything is fine when I use it with an additional PCI card which gains you some USB ports anyway.
Recommend to give this a try before going for something like Edirol since the US-122 is a fine piece of hardware, apart from the aversion to some onboard USB port.
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/15 08:16:55
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matt, a lot of users on this forum have had trouble with US-122 and CW products. do a search and you'll find a lot of things going on, especially with an incompatability between US-122 and certain Dell motherboards. Hyperthreading also seems to complicate the US-122 and some users recommend disabling hyperthreading. us-122 problems (look especially at the next to last post where superdan has linked several posts concerning US-122 issues. Also - the US-122 is NOT on the "approved" list of hardware compatable with Sonar: CW Hardware
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/15 14:12:10
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One random thing ...make sure you don't have a virus.
And, if you are running an antivirus software - it may take up cycles and crash.
Is it parked on the same IRQ with anything else?
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/15 14:50:10
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I had a Tascam US122 - nothing but problems. I replaced it with a Toneport UX2 from Line 6 using the Asio drivers ... no complaints. The US122 continually crashed my system.
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/15 14:59:00
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Another thing I would recommend to try before dropping the US-122: Give the US-122 it's own USB controller, dont share a controller with other devices, don't use it behind a Hub ! Best solution is a dedicated add on USB card. Go to device manager in WIndows XP and see the properties of the USB Root Hubs, you can see which device is attached and how much current strength it demands. One USB Root Hub can provide max 500mA and the Tascam needs the full amount !! Some onboard USB's do not provide that reliably  Yes that's German, okay...well,it means "Properties of USB-Root Hub" and can be found in the XP device manager. Try different combinations with your USB devices until you got the US-122 alone at it's own port. Check Device Manger to get sure. You may try the famous "Asio4All" driver which provides an alternative ASIO Interface to the applications. and is under permanent development for improvement. Some people made it work by using this one instead. Try with and without hardware buffer in the ASIO4All control panel. http://www.asio4all.com All the best..and good luck.
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mattplaysguitar
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/15 22:39:10
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Ok i tryed with ASIO4ALL drivers but that didnt help. Ive currently got a gigabyte GA-8N775 motherboard in so its not dell anymore, need to update my signature, ill do that after this. I did that think which checks the power usage and it was just like the screen above but it also had another thing in there saying 'USB composite device - 98mA' so im guessin that means that it cant draw all the power it needs seeing as the max is 500mA and its drawing 598... I'll have to experiment with putting it in all the ports and see if i can get it alone, ill also check out that USB PCI card and see how much they are cause that could hopefully help... Ive decided not too give up hope again, seeing you guys come out with even more ideas for problems has put my hopes bac up cause i thought i had tried everything! thanks all!
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mattplaysguitar
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/15 23:00:47
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Well i got it onto its own port and its the only one that comes up in that list now but still to no avail.. Ive got a gigabyte motherboard so its a decent brand so im guessin there wouldnt be any problems with power not being delivered to the max? Could a USB PCI card still be possible solution?
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mattplaysguitar
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/15 23:26:29
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Oh yeah, one last thing. When it did work on my computer before i had turned hyperthreading off as i had heard of bad things about it and tascam. Does anyone think it could possibly solve the problem? I didnt really notice much difference with it turned off anyway, how many people hear actually use it? Might try turnin it off sometime and see wat that does
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/16 01:30:43
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Hi there,
can't comment on that Hyperthreading thing since I'm on an AMD at the moment.
I was unable to run the US-122 without tremendous crackling on the onboard USB's of both
my EPOX 8KHA+ (VIA KT266A chipset) and my current Asrock Dual SATA II (Uli 1695 chipset).
I did even reject installing the drivers on the Asrock.
Using an additional USB card (mine got a VIA chipset and is now about 4 years old) solved the problems.
I WAS able to run it at the onboard's of an Asrock K7S8XE+ (Sis 748 Chipset).
Yes, there's always an exeption to the rule.
You got nForce4 chipset in your mobo, I did not try that yet.
Since you've got nothing to lose I would say go and get an USB card which is around 10 US$.
If it does not work as well, you've got 4 addional USB's at the back on
your machine and the day will always come when you'll be grateful for those...
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/16 02:13:35
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Well, they are bloody cheap, why not, its worth a go. Unfortunately my motherboard only has two PCI slots :( one has the soundblaster, and the other has the modem, but im on boradband, so i can remove modem, but only got dialup back home, so will have a problem there, ah well. Any idea if there are USB cards for PCI-e1? I have a few ports for those
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/16 03:30:34
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Yes, I see this board does not offer many PCI slots...hmmm... Okay, there's just one PCI-e to USB card I'm aware of, made by a small german company http://www.mcab.de/html/m-cab.html It's their product #700082, not yet listed on their website yet. More products like that will surely come to market soon but today all these cards are still PCI. So recommend to take out your dial up modem and try if the US-122 works properly with an USB add-on card on the nForce4 chipset. If it works for you you may buy a PCI-e modem or another PCI-E USB card later on, when it's available or you may go for an USB dial up modem.
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/16 16:08:17
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Hi, May be a red herring but there are documented problems with nForce4 mobos, PCI-e graphics and audio applications. For example here is a quote from RME's website: The observed performance issue - increased cpu resource usage and/or necessity to use significantly higher latency settings to eliminate pops/clicks with NF4/PCI-E/SLI, and to a lesser degree, Intel 925/915/PCI-E - is detected by users with several DAW softwares, such as Cubase SX, Nuendo 2/3, Samplitude 8, Sound Forge, and Sonar 4. If this is the case, you may well get the problem with any audio interface. FWIW I have a tascam 122 I use for location recording and never had a problem with it, but that's with a completely different setup. cheers
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mattplaysguitar
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/16 22:54:29
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damn...oh well, best i can do is just to keep trying for success, ill try getting a new HD, installing Home on it (got pro atm) and making it for 100% recording only so its as simple as possible and ill try turnin off HT and gettin a USB card. Hopefully ill get success there, if not, anyone else got any more ideas? Cheers all.
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/17 05:52:07
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Dunch is right that there are issues with nforce4 chipsets (there are many with nVidia chipsets) that's why I always go the chipsets from SiS or Uli which are not that much competing for speed as nVida and VIA did. But I did want to go to deep into that here, because Matt has a good chance of getting it to work with add on USB card and changing motherboard is way more fuss and money involved and should be the last option IMHO. So Matt, you asked for othe option if the add on USB card gives no improvement...yes then you need to drop the nForce4 chipset and go for an Intel chipset provided you'd like stick to the Pentium. But try the card first, it's cheap and you got a good chance. Also ugrade your motherboards's BIOS to the latest edition http://asia.giga-byte.com/FileList/BIOS/motherboard_bios_ga-8n775_f3.exe
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/17 08:45:45
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Intel 925/915/PCI-E - is detected by users with several DAW softwares That's your whole problem!! Arrrgh! This crap really pisses me off. USB has been around since the early 90's and they STILL can't get it right. It's not the fault of Tascam, and it's not the fault of Sonar. It's Intel's fault. I first ran into this problem with my Line6 products. Here's a link to a rather lengthy post that explains the whole problem: http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.asp?m=767514 Best of luck.
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/17 12:27:31
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The problem is a combination of Ding-Dong Dell and Intel.
I have an ADK Proaudio DAW with an Athlon 64 X2 4400+, 4 gigs of ram, an 80 gig OS HD, an 80 gig Project HD and a 300 gig Storage and sample streaming HD and I have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM with my Tascam US-122 external usb sound card; not with Sonar 2, 4PE or 5PE, not with Cubase SX-3, not with Sound Forge 8, not with CD Architect 5.2, not with Adobe Audition 1.5, not with Sibelius 4.1, nor any other software I have installed. In this case, anyway, it is NOT Tascam's problem.
Tom
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mattplaysguitar
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RE: Tascam US-122 Problems
2006/06/19 05:44:00
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Well guys i have great news (for me anyway). I got the USB PCI card and after a few probelems here and there i finaly got it all sorted and now everything works PERFECTLY!!! Very happy i am indeed :D Thanks guys for all the help and anyone else out there with tascam probelms, the USB card is definately worth a go, only $AU13. Cheers all! So glad it only cost me $13 in the end!
Matt
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