pdarg
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My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
I have set up a page with some new resources for Session Drummer 2, including new sfz files that I have created myself for use with some free drum kits (DFH and Natural Studio). There is also a link to another free kit (GSCW) with pre-made sfz files. You can find it all here: http://www.phildarg.com/SD2.htm Just my way of saying “thanks†to all of the great advice and support I have received here for the past two years. Phil
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 11:30:02
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You're welcome! There are some great resources there to make the most out of SD2.
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 12:33:08
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Cool!!
You gonna make it to the user's group tomorrow night?
(...I think it's tomorrow night anyways)
If so, maybe you could show a few of us that attend how to use SD2?
-mr moon
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 12:41:09
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Thats very nice of you Phil, I am kinda curious though, how is it possible to convert the files for use in SD2 also are they multi layered? Keep rocking
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 13:53:21
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another free kit (GSCW) with pre-made sfz files Hey...so I got the samples and the sfz files. I see how I can load an individual instrument sample to a pad and how to load a whole kit from the PAD dropdown, but that assumes it's in .kit format...which is - what?
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pdarg
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 14:26:44
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ORIGINAL: Blades
another free kit (GSCW) with pre-made sfz files
Hey...so I got the samples and the sfz files. I see how I can load an individual instrument sample to a pad and how to load a whole kit from the PAD dropdown, but that assumes it's in .kit format...which is - what?
GSCW is in 48 kHz/24 bit WAV. Once you download the free sets, just place the sfz files for the GSCW kits in the main folder for those samples. Should work - it worked for me.
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 14:35:11
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ORIGINAL: sonickg
Thats very nice of you Phil, I am kinda curious though, how is it possible to convert the files for use in SD2 also are they multi layered? Keep rocking
The number of layers varies depending on what samples are available in each sample kit. The sfz files work because you're not converting the samples: the sfz files simply make reference to WAV files, which SD2 recognizes. Aside from the resident SD2 kit samples, I am disappointed at how few 24 bit/44.1 kHz stereo drum samples are out there. Also, the DFH and some of these others do not have many layers (which is disappointing). I have created several 12 layer kits using an old drum machine. They sound great in SD2 - and I would post the kits/sfz files for others, but I am uncertain of the legalities of creating samples from another sound source.
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Blades
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 14:36:40
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I have the sfz files and the samples in place, but I can't find a place where you tell Session Drummer 2 to load an sfz, except for each individual pad, but the sfz files that are there for the GSCW kit are for the whole kit, not the iindividual things.
I feel like I'm overlooking the obvious.
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 15:15:52
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ORIGINAL: Blades
I have the sfz files and the samples in place, but I can't find a place where you tell Session Drummer 2 to load an sfz, except for each individual pad, but the sfz files that are there for the GSCW kit are for the whole kit, not the iindividual things.
I feel like I'm overlooking the obvious.
Right lcik on each pad - choose "Load Instrument" and load the sfz file. For the GSCW, you simply load the kit sfz file into EVERY pad - SD2 is smart enough not to duplicate samples into RAM, apparently.
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 15:25:41
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ORIGINAL: pdarg
For the GSCW, you simply load the kit sfz file into EVERY pad - SD2 is smart enough not to duplicate samples into RAM, apparently.
Now you tell me after I split-up the GSCW sfz files for each pad. In any event,I'm glad you got that question answered, that is good to know.
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 15:40:18
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ORIGINAL: mr. moon
Cool!!
You gonna make it to the user's group tomorrow night?
(...I think it's tomorrow night anyways)
If so, maybe you could show a few of us that attend how to use SD2?
-mr moon
Ohhhhh... Guess who's on the "ignore" list.   -mr moon
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 17:34:23
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ORIGINAL: mr. moon
ORIGINAL: mr. moon
Cool!!
You gonna make it to the user's group tomorrow night?
(...I think it's tomorrow night anyways)
If so, maybe you could show a few of us that attend how to use SD2?
-mr moon
Ohhhhh...
Guess who's on the "ignore" list.
-mr moon
Oops, sorry - thought I answered you. I may or may not be able to make it tomorrow, but I would like to start coming back to those sessions soon, and sure, i can talk about SD2 and sfz files. There - you're off the "ignore list."
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 18:04:42
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Thank you kindly. Very generous of you.
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/15 22:32:42
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WOW, Phil, Thanks so very much
this is exactly what I needed to get running with SD2
Awesome
Thank You
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/16 17:59:03
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Hey...thanks for the tips. Looks like that sample set loads up and I've now saved a kit file for the first set, but I think there are some teaks that need to be done somewhere, as a few of the instruments within kit 1 seem really low in level. Looked a little at the sfz files and they look simple enough, but nothing looks wacky. Have to take a look at a few of the wav files.
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/16 20:57:15
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ORIGINAL: I think there are some teaks that need to be done somewhere, as a few of the instruments within kit 1 seem really low in level. Looked a little at the sfz files and they look simple enough, but nothing looks wacky. Have to take a look at a few of the wav files.
In case you want to do some heavy sfz editing, there's an editor here Also, FWIW, if anyone wanted to load the entire NS7_free kit into the SFZ player, there are several alternative maps here. I played a bit with the "normal" one, and had to tweak the comment area to get it recognized by SFZ. The map will also work with SD2, though a copy would have to be loaded into each pad to get the full set (as Phil indicated above for a different kit). -Ron
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/16 22:24:56
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Thanks!
pdarg for president!
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/16 22:32:08
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ORIGINAL: Blades
Hey...thanks for the tips. Looks like that sample set loads up and I've now saved a kit file for the first set, but I think there are some teaks that need to be done somewhere, as a few of the instruments within kit 1 seem really low in level. Looked a little at the sfz files and they look simple enough, but nothing looks wacky. Have to take a look at a few of the wav files.
You have stumbled upon an important point. Aside from the DimPro and SD2 samples, there are very few 24 bit/44.1kHz quality drum samples, and many have serious problems with overall level. Also, very few seem to be balanced against each for relative volume. Just makes me want to create that set of drum kit samples . . .
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/17 00:23:48
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User's Group???
Where are you guys located?
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/17 07:43:40
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ORIGINAL: pdarg
Just makes me want to create that set of drum kit samples . . .
Let me be the first to encourage you in this endevor and thank you in advance should you decide to share the product of your effort.
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/17 18:55:35
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Thanks Pdrag, I dont have S6 yet (Waiting for the 'buy S6 and get S7 for free' :-) But for those who have DKFH and dont want to rename all the sample one by one there's a little soft to help you. http://www.musicsucks.com/CKSoft/CKRename/ DanXIV
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/18 05:36:27
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Very generous of you, pdarg! This has been very helpful in evaluating SessionDrummer2 as an alternative to VSampler. Thanks!
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2006/11/25 12:34:07
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Did some of you get some good results with GSCW? Was hoping to get some very live jazz sound and found it processed and not really interesting. Missing sthing?
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2007/04/10 04:29:03
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Hi Phil, Now that I'm playing around with different setups for drums I wanted to try the NSKIT7Free set with Session Drummer 2, but it seems the download http://www.phildarg.com/NS-sfz.zip is no longer valid? Is this on purpose (due to some legal issues) or is it something you might want to fix? Sincerely Dennis P
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2007/04/10 08:06:51
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Downloading now. Thanks Phil. I'll let you know how they go.
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2007/04/10 10:16:58
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Wow! I am glad to see that this thread keeps getting found - I thought it had run its course some time ago. I had deleted some of the ZIP files to conserve space, but if there is a demand for them I will put them back up. Also, I am looking for more GREAT SOUNDING kits/samples to use with SD2 - so if anyone has any tips, leave them here as well. Unfortunately, I will not be able to upload the files until the end of today.  Stay tuned,
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RE: My gift to Sonar / Session Drummer 2 users
2007/04/10 12:38:48
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is anyone else disturbed by the fact there's no mention of SD2 in the online manual ?
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