Ognis
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/23 09:16:31
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So is Wool the secret ingredient in rockwool that gives it its acoustic properties? If so, could I then assume that a wool blanket would work better than a quilted one or a comforter? The Flintstones did a song called "She said yeah. yeah, yeah.. he said. yeah. yeah, yeah".. And it sounded pretty good to me to be recorded in an all stone structure.
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themidiroom
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/23 10:19:54
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Not sure how much of a craftsman you are, but you can build some nice absorbers that hang from the wall and you can take them with you.
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/23 13:58:12
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ORIGINAL: walrusman So is Wool the secret ingredient in rockwool that gives it its acoustic properties?... Um, no. In fact I don't think there's any wool in rockwool. It's some kind of strands of mineral that are spun like wool. Sort of like fiberglass. Cheers.
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/23 23:29:39
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ORIGINAL: Ognis So is Wool the secret ingredient in rockwool that gives it its acoustic properties? If so, could I then assume that a wool blanket would work better than a quilted one or a comforter? The Flintstones did a song called "She said yeah. yeah, yeah.. he said. yeah. yeah, yeah".. And it sounded pretty good to me to be recorded in an all stone structure. I don't remember that song. Maybe if you could sing it for me? But stone would be more expensive than anything...
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Ognis
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/24 00:05:46
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ORIGINAL: walrusman ORIGINAL: Ognis So is Wool the secret ingredient in rockwool that gives it its acoustic properties? If so, could I then assume that a wool blanket would work better than a quilted one or a comforter? The Flintstones did a song called "She said yeah. yeah, yeah.. he said. yeah. yeah, yeah".. And it sounded pretty good to me to be recorded in an all stone structure. I don't remember that song. Maybe if you could sing it for me? But stone would be more expensive than anything... The only way to get rid of the Hatrocks (a parody of the Beverly Hillbillies) was to play 'Bug Music' (a parody of the Beatles). The Flintstones, the Rubbles, and even the Gruesomes (a parody of the Munsters/Adam's Family) helped pipe in 'Bug Music' just about everywhere including the phone and fridge, and dressed up like the band to drive the Hatrocks back home. 'Bug Music' Lyrics "I said ya ya ya, She said ya ya ya, We said ya ya ya, AAAHHHH" (repeat forever) source = http://i-flintstones.tripod.com/music.htm
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themidiroom
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/26 10:17:56
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ORIGINAL: Ognis I don't remember that song. Maybe if you could sing it for me? But stone would be more expensive than anything... Stone is expensive, but not as bad as I thought. My favorite Flintstone's song was from an episode where some German student musicians were renting a room in the Flintstone house. "I love my Vilma!" Now that I think of it, there was some really cool music in those cartoons. Remember the Jetson's theme?
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/26 11:56:03
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^^That's hilarious...I never saw that one...reminds of 'A Christmas Story' when the family has to get christmas dinner at an asian restaraunt and the staff sang Deck The Halls... "Fa Ra Ra Ra...."
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/26 14:47:12
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One of the industry veterans with regards to studio acoustics is Ethan Winer of RealTraps.com. He has a new product call the Portable Vocal Booth that attaches to a mic stand. His comparison (online audio/video examples) to the SE Reflexion Filter is quite eye (and ear) opening. http://www.realtraps.com/p_pvb.htm hounDAWg
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/26 15:47:49
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Yup, looks like Ethan's done it again. He deserves mentioning, if nothing else, because of the great, knowledgable support he's given to this very SONAR forum. Mind you, this is no pity vote. His products are top-notch.
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themidiroom
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/26 16:32:51
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ORIGINAL: losguy Yup, looks like Ethan's done it again. He deserves mentioning, if nothing else, because of the great, knowledgable support he's given to this very SONAR forum. Mind you, this is no pity vote. His products are top-notch. Almost seems like you'd want two of these to keep the room behind you from being picked up by the mic. Kind of expensive but looks effective.
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Houndawg
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/26 19:05:37
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I agree, you definitely wouldn't want any reflections coming from behind the vocalist. I would think that the vocalist him/herself would mask a lot of that, but I would still treat the wall behind, ceiling above, and floor below for reflections -- especially when using a sensitive condenser mic -- I've had those pick up a fart from across the building! However, Ethan's online audio/video samples of the Portable Vocal Booth are very impressive... especially when compared to the Reflexion Filter. hounDAWg
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/26 22:03:06
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Good observation. But like mentioned earlier, it can work great if the wall/corner behind is covered with dampening material or a bass trap (or both).
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/02/28 19:38:59
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If your tracking Vocals that range from WU TANG CLAN,Public Enemy etc.. It may sound wierd but track them in the bathroom in the shower and put a wool blanket where the shower curtain is. This may seem ghetto but you can get a good sound.
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/03/14 01:02:49
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I helped build a vocal booth. Grab a friend, a truck, a case of beer (or in my case wine,) and order plans for $35 from this website www.dawbox.com I did some looking into and booths cost between $2-5,000 to order. I have done the closet recording with blankets and foam (actually it wasn't bad.) Then the do it yourself plan popped up on the market. It's a 4X7 portable booth for under $500 in supplies. I had to actually rent a truck from Home Depot to transport the supplies. Aside from any parts you might need to order, it can be done in one day. You will not only isolate your vocals, but you will lose the background noise from the next door neighbors stereo, or the truck noise from the highway. We used Aurelex and glued up all the seams. You could take it one step further by putting sheet block as a layer under the Aurelex. Paint it, carpet it, or do whatever you want to make it look cool on the outside.
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mlockett
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/03/14 12:25:52
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I treated the corner of my room with auralex and a carpet that hangs from the ceiling about an inch out from the wall. Then I found someone selling office/cubical partitions and picked up a few of those and hinged them together, put auralex on them and set them at an angle in the corner to avoid parallel walls. Since the partitions don't go all the way up to the ceiling, I hung a thick comforter/quilt from the ceiling against the wall, and drape it over the partitions. It's certainly not sound proof, but it very significantly reduces other noises. I also found that when you kill all the reflection in an isolation booth, I have to add a subtle room verb (or some other verb) to make the the vocals sound natural. It's strange to add fx to make things sound more believable, but the recording sounds suspiciously dead without it.
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pistolpete
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/03/14 12:52:48
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Since you are in New Orleans, just make sure whatever you end up with is waterproof...
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jacktheexcynic
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/03/14 19:38:08
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ORIGINAL: pistolpete Since you are in New Orleans, just make sure whatever you end up with is waterproof...  kayne west doesn't think you're funny. also, i'm buying the realtraps mic booth thing - i've been looking for something like that and i know that ethan's stuff is top-notch. i can't afford to real-trap my apartment... i know some of you are worried about rear reflections but i imagine they would be greatly reduced since the vocal is being projected forward with a lot more energy than to the sides, top and backward. unless your room is really nasty sounding it's not always a bad thing to get some room sound in there.
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pistolpete
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RE: a home studio vocal booth, I'm trying to put one together
2007/03/14 19:57:00
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I appologize. I should have realized that most soundproofing is made of a porous foamlike material and may not be effective when wet. But hey, at least it floats.
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