Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5

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2007/02/15 01:54:54 (permalink)

Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5

Anyone having problems with Sonar seeing the Yamaha USB Midi drivers they provide for the AW1600 for synching and midi control. The installation is funky and the device driver says they are installed but not functioning correctly and the two midi ports never show up in the Sonar Midi devices.

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    ducatibruce
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    RE: Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5 2007/02/15 07:39:55 (permalink)
    I'm not familiar with the AW - but if it's the generic Yamaha USB midi driver ( http://www.yamahasynth.com/download/midi_driver.html ) the AW needs to be turned on & USB midi mode (rather than USB file mode or midi control via midi ports) set before the ports appear in Windoze/Sonar.

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    RE: Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5 2007/02/15 14:59:47 (permalink)
    The manual for the AW1600 covers all the settings for making the unit either a master or slave. When the AW1600 is playing it seems to register with it's specific Yamaha USB monitoring utility in the Control Panel but it still doesn't show up as a midi device in Sonar. There is a setting to use the AW1600 as a remote device with Sonar and it is selected as well. I assume if the USB driver is working properly it will show up as a midi device in Sonar. If that is not the case what is the procedure for telling Sonar to use the USB midi time code as the master time code. The only timing selection is the onboard soundcard.
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    RE: Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5 2007/02/16 00:31:39 (permalink)
    As I said before - I'm not familiar with the AW - but if it's similar to Yamaha's generic USB driver used in other devices XP/Sonar won't be able to see the midi ports unless the AW is set up to route midi data via the USB port - see pg 158 of the AW manual. http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/pa/english/recorders/aw1600_en_om.pdf

    If Sonar can't see the USB midi ports it won't be able to use them for timing.

    Did you get the "Found new hardware wizard" after installing the drivers & turning on the AW for the 1st time?

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    RE: Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5 2007/02/16 01:15:45 (permalink)
    I have set the Midi In to USB 1 and the Midi out to USB 2 and disabled the Thru per the instructions in the manual. I did get the found new hardware prompts when I first powered up. The USB Midi drivers show up in the systray icon to remove the device yet Sonar does not see them. I read that these drivers should show up in the Midi Playback pulldown menu in the Sounds and Audio Device Properties. They are not there either. The TTSSEQ.INI file show no entries and the Project Options Midi Sync Output Ports and MTC Output ports do not have the USB Midi ports listed. It would seem these drivers should show up somewhere in Sonar. Very puzzling.

    Thanks for your input.

    John
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    ducatibruce
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    RE: Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5 2007/02/16 01:22:29 (permalink)
    Getting down to the really obvious stuff here but do they show up under options/midi devices in sonar 5 & are they enabled (ticked)?

    What driver version does the USB Midi control panel applet say the drivers are?
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    RE: Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5 2007/02/16 02:03:05 (permalink)
    No, they have never shown up in Options/Midi Device, ticked or unticked. That has always been su****ious especially when they do show up in the systray function to "Safely Remove" them just like they were a USB thumb or other device like a Firewire drive. The version in the utility is 2.2.0. I have been using a USB keyboard recently but this problem occurred well before I started using it. I can't see there being a conflict there but I have disconnected the keyboard and ran through the uninstall and reinstall process and still no go.

    I have been in touch with Yamaha and they are recommending using the latest drivers, which I am, and have only offered the advice of being meticulous about the order of when to turn on the AW unit during the install process. I am getting ready to start hacking the registry to see if there is some way I may be able to more thoroughly uninstall the drivers. Scary stuff, that.

    Thanks again,

    John
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    RE: Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5 2007/02/16 04:02:40 (permalink)
    Sounds like it is the generic Yamaha USB midi driver.

    The Safely Remove systray function suggests that the AW is in file/storage mode. Maybe make sure that's turned off. I've no Yamaha gear that uses that type of mode but Roland USB stuff I have does & file mode, when the box is effectively pretending to be a disk drive, tends to block any midi via USB functionality.
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    RE: Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5 2007/02/16 14:26:29 (permalink)
    There is no doubt the drivers are the generic USB drivers from Yamaha. The Yamaha support people have been very sure to point me to those drivers. The fact that the AW unit seems to default to being a USB storage device upon booting is becoming the issue since there is a specific process that is required to enable that mode on the unit. That mode is not the default mode yet it seems to be booting and sending that information. How to get it to not default to file/storage mode is the question. Yamaha can't seem to get focused on that yet but my last email to them explained that situation.

    Regards,

    John
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    RE: Yamaha USB Midi drivers, AW1600 and Sonar 5 2010/03/11 13:54:52 (permalink)
    Did you ever get this working?


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